Electric truck - tow vehicle of future ?

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

But yah I hear what you are saying. If you want to really see something depressing go to a drag strip and watch the Teslas knock off half million dollar lamborghinis in the quarter mile. 7 passenger complete with kid seats and cup holders handing lamborghinis and Ferraris their assets...and all in total silence...and a five star safety rating. Ouch

Of course, this is the one performance metric where it does well but is the least road relevant test.

10 laps on the nurberg ring and I'd put my money on a base Ford Focus.

I do find talk about fumes and noise funny. I've had diesel 1 ton trucks idle up behind me in parking lots and surprise me. Modern cars are incredibly quiet and short of sniffing the tailpipe, you really can't smell anything.

You don't need 10 laps. It couldn't even make it 1 lap under full power.

My cell phone won't even make it a day without running out of power and some of you are talking electric class 8's. LOL, good luck with that. 100 mile range, LMAO.

Its true. Most EV's have software that limit the output current under certain conditions and temperatures. Our one EV does that after thirty seconds of full pedal although in normal driving there would never be a reason to have full pedal after thirty seconds. Not sure about our other one or what the parameters are. I am not sure how they do it with the Formula E cars. I would suspect some sort of cooling system. But as far as Tesla's competing on race tracks, remember, these are just luxury family SUV's and sedans, they were not made to race although they do pretty good on the drag strip. Tesla has shown no interest in racing which is generally done as a form of advertising. Tesla also doesn't advertise. Why would they, they have two years of production pre-sold. Class 8 is easily achievable within a couple years and 100 mile would work well for many routes. And since ranges continually increase on all EV's that number will continue to increase and be suitable for more and more markets. JMHO

The OP brought up tow vehicles. I've held my truck WOT for many, many, many minutes at a time towing my trailer. It uses A LOT of energy to do this. Now lets compare gasoline and batteries.

APS Physics wrote:
Stored energy in fuel is considerable: gasoline is the champion at 47.5 MJ/kg and 34.6 MJ/liter; the gasoline in a fully fueled car has the same energy content as a thousand sticks of dynamite. A lithium-ion battery pack has about 0.3 MJ/kg and about 0.4 MJ/liter (Chevy VOLT). Gasoline thus has about 100 times the energy density of a lithium-ion battery.

You're the one that brought up drag racing; and since you did, I have a guy that I know that has a 15K Mustang "daily driver street car" that I will put up against a 120K Tesla in a drag race and I will put 5K on the race. Or I will put my "street car" (not a daily driver) against any Tesla you want in a 1/4 mile race and also bet 5K against the Tesla.

There is only two things that make a Tesla quick. One is they are all wheel drive so they hook up on the street very well. The second is they can dump a lot of energy (power) very quickly.

I said it in the past and I will say it again. EV make very good urban vehicles. Garbage trucks come to mind. Taxi cabs or even local UPS or FedX vehicles come to mind. They will work very good for these things.

TV's or class 8 semis's or airplanes...............not so much.

Oh, and as far as Cummins coming out with a EV truck. All big companies do this. That does not make them feasible. Remember the Ford Nucleon?Now there was a real winner! :B

Good morning. I am not sure who this was directed to as there were multiple posts. I had a dually powerstroke pulling a fifth wheel so I get where WOT is common for extended periods of time. However we are talking about SUV's and sedans here and not tow vehicles. If I held WOT on either of our EV's or any EV or any ICE sedan or SUV for that matter I would be breaking a bunch of laws as I would probably be north of 150 KMH. I am not familiar with the new mustangs but I am surprized that a 15,000 dollar mustang can take a Tesla, Lambo, Ferrari, Vette etc etc off the line. I would not have thought that. That is quick. Is that also the case with the zero to sixty times. Right now the Tesla P100D is at 2.54 seconds so the mustang would have to be quicker than that. Holy crp if it is.