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ShinerBock
Jan 18, 2018Explorer
Allamakee1 wrote:
Never said it will outsell the EB. Please show me where I said that. I think it is possible in the future with the scenarios I and Robert gave. I have no crystal ball though
Then why do you keep telling me that I am wrong when I say the EB will outsell diesel unless fuel prices increase? In order for you to say that I am wrong means that you believe the opposite will happen and that the diesel will outsell the Ecoboost
Allamakee1 wrote:
Oh you like the 3.5 EB. Never would have guessed that. I’ve driven one, never towed anything, very nice truck, drove very nice. Couldn’t comment on the immense power, performance, blah blah blah because I drove it like I would any other truck.
Oh and you don't like the Ecoboost. Never would have guessed that. Although I really don't care if you like it or not. Liking or disliking certain engines is not what this debate is about.
Allamakee1 wrote:
Your historical data with a 3.0 diesel is the first year that one was ever produced? Ok that’s a good sample pool......
You haven't been reading what what I have been saying have you and have just been disagreeing with me just because your personal feelings won't let you do otherwise at this point. If you would have been reading then you would have read where I stated that many in half ton truck market has a llllloooonnngggg history of purchasing the more powerful/less fuel efficient engine choice over the less powerful/more fuel efficient choice as long as the cost difference remain low.
Then there is the low 12% percentage of the Ecodiesel and the 10% GM expects out of the 2.8L Duramax. That along with it not being a big enough cost savings for the average pickup driver is how I came up with my opinion. It is not brought on by any personal bias for one engine over the other like yours is. If the data showed that this diesel would sell more than the Ecoboost then I would say it, but it shows otherwise.
Allamakee1 wrote:
Also, doesn’t sound like you even have any actual (my buddy drive one once and I sat inside) experience with the ED or any current 3.0 diesels. Correct?
Sort of, but it was a 300+ mile trip. What does that have to do with me being wrong on sales figures based off of market data and cost analysis?
The only that has to do with is me thinking that these small diesels don't have enough power for my preferences of how much power a half ton should have, but you will never change that no matter how blue in the face you get trying to convince me otherwise.
Allamakee1 wrote:
I already gave you the scenario where the total cost makes financial sense especially with the ED over the EB where the ED price is actually cheaper.
And your point is? The ED was cheaper even in my calculations of the average half ton truck buyer, but it was not enough of a difference to make most want to give up over 135 hp, more capability, and better performance. How many times do I have to repeat this? You do know as the OP of this thread that I am going to keep on responding right?
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