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Hitch / receiver extension question

meleavingsoon
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The 2000 Lance 1130 TC we just purchased came with a 4' (approx.) extension for towing a trailer, which I was excited to get.

I know in the future I would like to tow a trailer for various purposes. I have never seen or had any experience with an extension...can you guys give me instructions on how it is used?

My first thought was it would just insert in my current 2" receiver installed on my truck...but then I realized the extension is actually 2 1/2" and not 2". So, does that mean I will need to replace my current 2" receiver to be able to use the extension?

Also, does the extension connect in any way to the rear of the TC?

As some others pointed out in a previous thread, do I understand it correctly that the decision for a new hitch plays a part in making a decision on the brackets to secure the TC to the truck? (I am trying to determine what brackets to purchase)

Thanks much,
Phil
2000 American Coach 45' Heritage
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meleavingsoon
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jefe 4x4 wrote: We are being the philosopher now, aren't we? Nothing like experience to settle your paradigm. 8<)

I took the course and failed big time 🙂 ....I've heard it said experience is the best (and hardest) teacher.

Your little blue trailer might be an example of my limits 🙂
2000 American Coach 45' Heritage

jefe_4x4
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Hendrix wrote: Problem with RV'ing...too many options and hard to know what you like and dislike until you try out all options ...but then you're broke and too old to even care what you are in.
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We are being the philosopher now, aren't we? Nothing like experience to settle your paradigm. 8<)
Here is another vote for The Reese Titan V. I use a 20 inch extension when I have pulled my 7000 pound car trailer (with Jeep and spare parts) even over rough ground. Once, during a move of my son and family, we had that trailer WAY overloaded and drove 150 miles on the interstate to get to the new digs. The camper was on the truck at the time and it was loaded to the gills with the family's wardrobe, spread in a neat pile on the queen bed. And then all the house plants worked our way to the back door. It was a white knuckle ride on a hot day expecting some overloaded tire to blow at any moment. Here is the extension with a small trailer with a pintel. The face of the hitch just clears the back of the camper:

and this one with a poor shot of the 20 inch hitch extension but one of the load:
'01.5 Dodge 2500 4x4, CTD, Qcab, SB, NV5600, 241HD, 4.10's, Dana 70/TruTrac; Dana 80/ TruTrac, Spintec hub conversion, H.D. susp, 315/75R16's on 7.5" and 10" wide steel wheels, Vulcan big line, Warn M15K winch '98 Lance Lite 165s, 8' 6" X-cab, 200w Solar

Bedlam
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No problem. Once you have all the data in front of you you can make an informed decision. The decision may not be any easier once you are offered more options, but you can be more confident in your choice.

Funny, we went with a TC and enclosed trailer so we would not have to pull around a 40' toy hauler FW. Our overall length with the Ford in that picture was just under 45' and with my current Ram just over 47'. The biggest difference is we can leave the garage behind if we don't bring toys and the length is halved.

Host Mammoth 11.5 on Ram 5500 HD

meleavingsoon
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Bedlam wrote:
Phil Hendrix wrote:
Honestly if I had even the slightest intentions of towing any significant weight at all, it would be a no-brainer decision for me ...I would get the superhitch and not look back. But seeing that I don't even know if I will muster the guts to tow anything behind the already very large and heavy TC I will wait on spending the money for a hitch I might not use.

There are light duty less expensive options available for you if you don't plan to change how much you will tow. If you do end up upgrading to the SuperHitch later, your replacement cost will be for the receiver, rear tie downs and extension. It is overkill for your current application, but it opens up more possibilities later without having to buy equipment again.



Bedlam...Thanks so much, your counsel is spot on, and if I thought I would ever want to tow much weight I would do exactly as you suggest and spend the additional money up front and be set up for life. But I really can't see us ever wanting to go heavier. I actually didn't want a TC as large as I did get, but when I found it I couldn't turn the price down. We do have a 40' 5th wheel that works when we want more space...I wanted the TC specifically for being smaller 🙂 and being able to drive and travel more like a travel van.

We started our RV life with a 45' class A ...wonderful but just too costly and too many times it was too big for us. Then went to the 5th wheel we currently have....great for sitting still at a camper ground. So then we purchased a Sprinter cargo van that I converted into a class B...that was great for travel purposes but it was unused too much so I sold it. Seeing I had the dually truck for work purposes I figured why not try a TC. We are hoping this works to compliment the large 5th wheel.

Problem with RV'ing...too many options and hard to know what you like and dislike until you try out all options 🙂 ...but then you're broke and too old to even care what you are in.
2000 American Coach 45' Heritage

Reddog1
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As I recall, there was a spreadsheet or chart posted some time back that showed the change in load capacity for each foot of extension. Does anyone have the link handy?

Wayne


2004.5 Ram SLT LB 3500 DRW Quad Cab 4x4
1988 Bigfoot (C11.5) TC (1900# w/standard equip. per decal), 130 watts solar, 100 AH AGM, Polar Cub A/C, EU2000i Honda

Toad: 91 Zuke

Bedlam
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Phil Hendrix wrote:
Honestly if I had even the slightest intentions of towing any significant weight at all, it would be a no-brainer decision for me ...I would get the superhitch and not look back. But seeing that I don't even know if I will muster the guts to tow anything behind the already very large and heavy TC I will wait on spending the money for a hitch I might not use.

There are light duty less expensive options available for you if you don't plan to change how much you will tow. If you do end up upgrading to the SuperHitch later, your replacement cost will be for the receiver, rear tie downs and extension. It is overkill for your current application, but it opens up more possibilities later without having to buy equipment again.


Host Mammoth 11.5 on Ram 5500 HD

GeoBoy
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If the OP is going to mount the hitch to his existing 2001 truck he doesn't need a 30K Magnum hitch. The standard Super Hitch will be more than adequate. I would rather spend the money for a safe proven hitch, designed for the Super Truss from the ground up than worry weather the hitch is safe and doing the job.

meleavingsoon
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Honestly if I had even the slightest intentions of towing any significant weight at all, it would be a no-brainer decision for me ...I would get the superhitch and not look back. But seeing that I don't even know if I will muster the guts to tow anything behind the already very large and heavy TC I will wait on spending the money for a hitch I might not use.
2000 American Coach 45' Heritage

Bedlam
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I have seen the other receivers along side the SuperHitch and can easily see how Torklift builds them up for the additional leverage of an extension. The others are not primarily designed for this type of application. I feel you have to choose the right tool for the job. If you want tow heavy off the receiver, there plenty of fine choices. If you want to tow heavy off an extension, only one receiver was purposely designed for this task.

Although I don't like paying more than I have to for these tools, I see the value in the design and have been willing buy these receivers for my last two trucks because it is the right receiver for the application. If your fabrication has the same lifetime guaranty and ratings with extensions as Torklift, it sounds like you think you could sell an equal or superior product for less. I am open to seeing your products because competition is good for everyone - The manufacturers are pushed to improve their product and the customers get more value.

Host Mammoth 11.5 on Ram 5500 HD

Reddog1
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Bedlam , I disagree. I posted a link which states various load capacities for several manufactures hitches. I do not see that as the wrong message. I think an assumption is being made that "the strength and extended length of the SuperHitch side plates allows them high ratings with an extension". Does the TorqueLift people make that claim in writing?

I have quite a bit of experience in fabricating hitches and trailers. TorqueLift has very good products. If cost is no object and/or you haven't much knowledge and experience on a give product, I really doubt you could go wrong with their products.

Wayne


2004.5 Ram SLT LB 3500 DRW Quad Cab 4x4
1988 Bigfoot (C11.5) TC (1900# w/standard equip. per decal), 130 watts solar, 100 AH AGM, Polar Cub A/C, EU2000i Honda

Toad: 91 Zuke

Bedlam
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Reddog1 wrote:
Oldtymeflyr wrote:
Curt makes a 2.5" receiver hitch rated at 18,000#.


Here is a link that provides load capacities of different hitches.

Etrailer

I don't know what you have in mind for future Towing Capacity. For your truck there are some hitches with 2400 Pound Tongue Weight and 16000 Pound Towing capacities with a 2 Inch Hitch Opening for about $175.

They also list a TorqueLift with a Towing Capacity of 1700 Pound Tongue Weight and 17000 Pound Towing with a 2 Inch Hitch Opening for about $600.

It may be worth while to give Etrailer a call to discuss what you have and what you want to accomplish. They sell several brands of hitches, with no obvious reason to promote one over the other.

Wayne

We covered the SuperHitch differences before. Even though there are other receivers that have the same or greater capacity rating at the receiver, the strength and extended length of the SuperHitch side plates allows them high ratings with an extension. Show me another receiver that has comparable frame contact area with their side plates. There are plenty of lighter duty alternatives, but suggesting other receivers using an extension are at parity with a SuperHitch is sending the wrong message.

Host Mammoth 11.5 on Ram 5500 HD

Grodyman
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For a small cargo trailer with a motorcycle and supplies what could the tongue weight possibly be? 300lbs? No doubt the Superhitch is the best, no arguing that. But for the OP's intended use I don't see it as absolutely necessary. A Curt or Reese Titan would work in my opinion.

Now, there are other advantages to ponying up for the Torklift:
- Easily integrates the rear tie downs
- Is designed for lateral chains
- Gives you room to tow larger trailers down the road

The problem is there is such a large price premium for the Torklift products that, for me at least, unless I absolutely need it, I'm not paying for it. Yes I'm cheap.

I am still trying to get over the current price of Fastguns, I could swear they used to be $350 for a set of 4, now they are over $500??? ouch
Gman
2017 F150 CC/5.5' 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost/3.55
2018 Passport Ultra-Lite 153ML

Buzzcut1
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from memory it was around 1100
2011 F350 6.7L Diesel 4x4 CrewCab longbed Dually, 2019 Lance 1062, Torqlift Talons, Fast Guns, upper and lower Stable Loads, Super Hitch, 48" Super Truss, Airlift loadlifter 5000 extreme airbags

Reddog1
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Buzz, what is the tongue weight?


2004.5 Ram SLT LB 3500 DRW Quad Cab 4x4
1988 Bigfoot (C11.5) TC (1900# w/standard equip. per decal), 130 watts solar, 100 AH AGM, Polar Cub A/C, EU2000i Honda

Toad: 91 Zuke