Fresh from Livernois Motorsports and installed in a SHO...wonder what the tow rating would be in a 150?600HP 3.5L Eco-Boost

They are putting that in the Ford GT for 2016 I think. And a 420 HP version is coming for the Raptor

Actually Ford Australia has the Barra 4 litre straight six 410hp, 415lbs ft of torque at 1800rpmHere is a STREET version putting out 1000hp.Video of Barra engine on DynoHere is a similar conversion. The Territory CUV used to have the turbo engine as wellA 8second Ford Ute with slightly destroked engineThe Ecoboost just becomes another turbo engine at that boost

Artificially aspirated motors can produce incredible power, but longevity is a desirable trait also.

RobertRyan wrote:Actually Ford Australia has the Barra 4 litre straight six 410hp, 415lbs ft of torque at 1800rpmHere is a STREET version putting out 1000hp.Video of Barra engine on DynoHere is a similar conversion. The Territory CUV used to have the turbo engine as wellA 8second Ford Ute with slightly destroked engineThe Ecoboost just becomes another turbo engine at that boostOver the years, a lot of interesting Fords and GM's designed for the Australian market, by both GM Australia and Ford Australia, no question.My question for you Robert, as an Australian car buff, what do you think will happen once both Ford and GM shut down their Australian factories ?BTW, I don't know why Ford/GM are closing down their Australian operations. Lot's of good design and enthusiasm have come from the Australian branches.

Lessmore wrote:RobertRyan wrote:Actually Ford Australia has the Barra 4 litre straight six 410hp, 415lbs ft of torque at 1800rpmHere is a STREET version putting out 1000hp.Video of Barra engine on DynoHere is a similar conversion. The Territory CUV used to have the turbo engine as wellA 8second Ford Ute with slightly destroked engineThe Ecoboost just becomes another turbo engine at that boostOver the years, a lot of interesting Fords and GM's designed for the Australian market, by both GM Australia and Ford Australia, no question.My question for you Robert, as an Australian car buff, what do you think will happen once both Ford and GM shut down their Australian factories ?BTW, I don't know why Ford/GM are closing down their Australian operations. Lot's of good design and enthusiasm have come from the Australian branches.They seem to be retaining their design studios and in Fords case hiring more designers to work on Various projects. they also test new Projects as wellIt is a tragedy with the Falcon , Territory and the Ute. Unfortuntely Australians were not buying the imported products to flesh out their lineup. Same goes with GM, the Commodore being the "engine room" of the lineup It was for many years the best selling car in AustraliaA combination of a high Australian Dollar, poor internal sales, Head Offices in the US cutting off export markets, the cars were "orphans" in the global lineup, and extreme competition in Australia, we have twice the number of models available than the U.S.

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RobertRyan
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
itguy08 wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:

Even the Ford Falcon Ute a car/ truck would put not only the RAM but other 1/2 tons to shame

The car in the OP, the Taurus SHO has more payload than a Ram Ecodiesel.

No Guts, No Glory, Ram!

Maybe got my message mixed up, the Ford Falcon FPV has no relation to a U.S. car or Pickup. It has a truck chassis,and a locked differential and a raised chassis for some Off Road work
itguy08
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
RobertRyan wrote:

Even the Ford Falcon Ute a car/ truck would put not only the RAM but other 1/2 tons to shame

The car in the OP, the Taurus SHO has more payload than a Ram Ecodiesel.

No Guts, No Glory, Ram!
itguy08
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
45Ricochet wrote:

Not up to date on the SHO's but back in 1985 I had a Mustang SVO which is a 4 banger forced. It gave the V8 stang everything it could muster. It also gave great MPG when driving normal :W
Funny it also had a on-off switch, as in turbo or non. Took me years to find that switch :W

Why would you ever turn that turbo off? My first car was an 86 Mustang 2.3 (Non turbo). Reliable but utterly gutless. 88 HP doesn't buy you much in the power department!
RobertRyan
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
Airstreamer67 wrote:
The half-ton Ram with the Italian diesel seems to be selling well too. Of course, their half-ton payload seems to be adding up to about 800 pounds for them. Maybe a 1/3 ton?

That is the difference between the Ram and a Global 3 litre Diesel Pickup PAYLOAD

The 5th Wheeler is 27ft long

Even the Ford Falcon Ute a car/ truck would put not only the RAM but other 1/2 tons to shame
45Ricochet
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
BurbMan wrote:
Krusty wrote:
I'll bet the "ECO" designation is definitely out the window now

Not at all...look at a car like the SHO, once at speed in OD and cruising, little to no boost and very good gas mileage. Same as the advantage of the EB in the 150 trucks....small motor and good mileage, twin turbos only make power when you need it.

Not up to date on the SHO's but back in 1985 I had a Mustang SVO which is a 4 banger forced. It gave the V8 stang everything it could muster. It also gave great MPG when driving normal :W
Funny it also had a on-off switch, as in turbo or non. Took me years to find that switch :W
itguy08
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
ib516 wrote:
BurbMan wrote:
Krusty wrote:
I'll bet the "ECO" designation is definitely out the window now

Not at all...look at a car like the SHO, once at speed in OD and cruising, little to no boost and very good gas mileage. Same as the advantage of the EB in the 150 trucks....small motor and good mileage, twin turbos only make power when you need it.

That's what they want you to think. Real world says different. The EcoBoost V6 in the new Lincoln Navigator is rated at 16 mpg combined. Same as the GMC Yukon Denali XL 6.2L V8. They make great power for their size, and a great for towing due to the design (turbos and DI), however, mpg misers EcoBoosts are not.

I own a 2010 SHO and for the size (over 4,000 lbs), AWD, and power on a true highway cruise - cruise set at 75, I can see 26 MPG. Been perfectly happy with it since then. It's a fast car when you want it to be, handles well, and is just fun.
dockmasterdave
Explorer
Feb 05, 2015
A few weeks ago I was going to Sanibel Island for work. It is a 45 MPH road with no traffic lights or stop signs.
I took a picture of the dash when I got there. Over the last hour I had averaged 28 MPG.
YUP all the people who don't have one can tell you" when not towing these things suck gas".
B.S.

Did you ever get 30 mpg, going down a mountain with a 460 big block?

HP and torque like a diesel, pulls like a diesel, but runs like an old GTO when you nail it, and is capable of over 30 mpgs if you keep you foot out of the turbos.
Personally, I can't keep my foot out of them. I enjoy it.
If you want to know what it's like, ask someone who owns one.
Airstreamer67
Explorer
Feb 04, 2015
The half-ton Ram with the Italian diesel seems to be selling well too. Of course, their half-ton payload seems to be adding up to about 800 pounds for them. Maybe a 1/3 ton?
hone_eagle
Explorer
Feb 04, 2015
Ecoboost is a very cheap diesel alternative and that all it is.Ford knew the constant bleeting from all corners "All I want is a small diesel" would evaporate under the reality of the cost ,
Ecoboost is Ford's response to a imaginary market and since they are sold out I think they got it right.
horton333
Explorer
Feb 04, 2015
ECO is just a marketing slogan? I'm shocked. :B :B :B :B :B :B