Ford 2.7 eco boost

Well, this thread strayed far from the orig 2.7 questions. No surprise.
But for anyone reading this trying to glean info about fords different 1/2 ton truck engine offerings over the last 10+ years, some of the opinions here are very skewed and not correct in the real world, nor by the actual numbers.

5.4 Triton, good venerable engine, minus the few known flaws. None life threatening to the engine.
5.0 Coyote engine 2011 and up (not sure how the discussions got back to comparing to 1966 mustangs and other engines), vastly superior power and towing ability. partly due to engine, partly to the 6 speed.
Eco boost, even better than the 5.0. Totally different engine, but more of a direct comparison to the 6.2 in ability.
Not opinion, but fact by the numbers and by someone who put alot of heavy miles on pretty much every gas engine model and combo from the mid 90s through the mid 2010s. I worked for 2 different construction companies that ran fleets of thousands of Ford gasser pickups and had a new or different rig almost every year and seat time in hundreds more, doing what the trucks were meant for....towing and hauling stuff and lots of highway miles.

jaycocamprs wrote:

bid_time wrote:

jaycocamprs wrote:
Where did I get my information? How about 27.5K behind the wheel of 2018 F150 with a 2.7 10 speed. All across the southeast. And no I don't pull a trailer with it.

Well if you've never pulled a trailer with it, you probably never had it in Tow/Haul mode, and hence, never experienced the engine braking with a load behind it. Second possibility is your truck is defective. The rest of us seem to have real experience with the engine braking. You should get your's looked at so you can get the engine braking you should be getting.

It's a company truck so that's why I have it. I have tried it in tow/haul. It is better, but it's a gear or 2 down to start with. But you will never get the braking from "waste gate" turbos that you get from the variable geometry turbo. Good truck, rides good and gets real good fuel mileage. Better than the V8 2011 that it replaced.
Obviously the Mountaineer 5th wheel in sig is to heavy for any 150/1500 truck, so that's why we have the DRW Duramax. And after owning 2 DRW diesels my opinion of any 150/1500 trucks towing abilities will be different than those who do tow with them. Guess I just like the other flavor of Kool-Aid.:W

I've had both flavors of the so called kool-aid as my last set up was a 08 350 dually with a 14k 5th wheel and we downsized in 2013 to the current TT we have now and the current set up we have is just as solid as the dually was with the 14k 5th...after 80k towing with the current set up it has towed just as well.

Lwiddis wrote:
“Spirit 2963BH dry is 6408 will probably end up around 7K loaded up.“

You are kidding yourself. If the manufacturer’s weight is accurate at 6408 just adding a full tank of water will add 408 pounds - 49 gallons x 8.34 pounds per gallons. Plus propane and batteries you are at 7000 with no stuff...chairs, bikes, food etc. Another 6 gallons in the water heater...49 pounds.

I don't often travel with water, I would venture a guess that a lot of people don't either. Also, before we had our current trailer and 3 kids we packed pretty light. Couple of pounds of food, couple of pounds of clothing, propane and battery and a couple of chairs. We could easily pack less then 600 lbs of gear.

Now, with a 34' trailer and 3 kids we carry EVERYTHING with us, every trip. We've got the beach umbrella in the front pass thru even if we're going to the lake. We've got 4 camp chairs all the time, even if 2 of them never come out for a weekend trip. We've got the Weber grill even if we plan to make sandwiches for lunch and go out for dinner. I've got plenty of 4x6 blocks for jacks, 2 sections of dog fence, 2 folding tables, a hatchet, propane torch for starting fires, blankets and electric heaters even in the summer, etc. If I had a smaller trailer or a lighter truck, I could pack and unpack as needed. Since I don't have to worry with weight, we are lazy and bring everything now.

Don't assume the OP is going to bring too much stuff. Perhaps a gentle warning about how weights can add up would be sufficient in the future, rather than a snarky post.

bid_time wrote:

Boomerweps wrote:
Duh! I could've had a V8! ;)
And I do!

I traded my V10 in for a 3.5 ecoboost with the 10 spd transmission; best upgrade I ever made. Maybe you should see what you're missing.

I test drove a 3.5 beast and it had plenty of get up and go on the test uphill I chose. Could not afford from that dealer. The dealer I bought from had several F150s with the option packages I desired BUT most were way out of my price range with a lot more options than I wanted to pay for. The only Max Tow was on a Platinum ;( All the 3.5EB were attached to loaded XLTs and higher packages.

I think the current 5.0 is a fairly recent version. Ford had a LOT of engines they called 5.0L but were quite different from each other. My first car was a used 1966 Mustang with 70,000 miles on it, considered high mileage at the time (1975). 289 V8 4bbl carb 3 speed automatic convertible in red with black top and interior. Never had more of a power to weight ratio in a vehicle. 1984 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE was similar power to weight. My 1998 Expedition 5.4 had the grunt but not the response. Just a few examples. This 2019 V8 reminds me of that Mustang when I floor it ;)

bid_time wrote:

jaycocamprs wrote:
Where did I get my information? How about 27.5K behind the wheel of 2018 F150 with a 2.7 10 speed. All across the southeast. And no I don't pull a trailer with it.

Well if you've never pulled a trailer with it, you probably never had it in Tow/Haul mode, and hence, never experienced the engine braking with a load behind it. Second possibility is your truck is defective. The rest of us seem to have real experience with the engine braking. You should get your's looked at so you can get the engine braking you should be getting.

It's a company truck so that's why I have it. I have tried it in tow/haul. It is better, but it's a gear or 2 down to start with. But you will never get the braking from "waste gate" turbos that you get from the variable geometry turbo. Good truck, rides good and gets real good fuel mileage. Better than the V8 2011 that it replaced.
Obviously the Mountaineer 5th wheel in sig is to heavy for any 150/1500 truck, so that's why we have the DRW Duramax. And after owning 2 DRW diesels my opinion of any 150/1500 trucks towing abilities will be different than those who do tow with them. Guess I just like the other flavor of Kool-Aid.:W

Boomerweps wrote:
Duh! I could've had a V8! ;)
And I do!

My condolences.

Boomerweps wrote:
Duh! I could've had a V8! ;)
And I do!

I traded my V10 in for a 3.5 ecoboost with the 10 spd transmission; best upgrade I ever made. Maybe you should see what you're missing.

jaycocamprs wrote:
Where did I get my information? How about 27.5K behind the wheel of 2018 F150 with a 2.7 10 speed. All across the southeast. And no I don't pull a trailer with it.

Well if you've never pulled a trailer with it, you probably never had it in Tow/Haul mode, and hence, never experienced the engine braking with a load behind it. Second possibility is your truck is defective. The rest of us seem to have real experience with the engine braking. You should get your's looked at so you can get the engine braking you should be getting.

Boomerweps wrote:
Duh! I could've had a V8! ;)
And I do!

Ha ha I had the 5.0 in 11 and wasn't impressed by its towing capabilities at all so traded it in in 6 months for the 3.5...night and day difference to me..it reminded me of the ol '08 5.4 I had..but to each their own we all like different things and I'm happy we have as many options out there to choose from as we do. :D

Duh! I could've had a V8! ;)
And I do!