Increased payload

It's just like a Ram Mega Cab 1500 with its 8600lb GVWR. Just 1 lb shy of the 8601lb cutoff for HD emissions. A Mega Cab 2500 has a higher rating and the only difference is the sticker on the door jamb! It's all a numbers game. And in order to play you have to know the game. Some of us do and some don't!

CapriRacer wrote:

RoyJ wrote:
Simple answer - check the rear GAWR of the said F250, compare it to your current rear GAWR, and that's your increase in payload......

Not exactly. The GAWR is based on the weakest link. Could be springs, could be tires, could be axle, could be frame. Unless you know which component it is, changing a single component might not change the payload at all.

Could just be fitting into a motor vehicle regulation and have nothing to do with the weakest physical length as well....

RoyJ wrote:
Simple answer - check the rear GAWR of the said F250, compare it to your current rear GAWR, and that's your increase in payload......

Not exactly. The GAWR is based on the weakest link. Could be springs, could be tires, could be axle, could be frame. Unless you know which component it is, changing a single component might not change the payload at all.

Hemling wrote:
I know that modifications don't legally change any of the vehicle's official ratings or capacities, but what would be the real-world payload difference in switching stock Excursion rear springs with F250 springs? The F250 springs are rated at 3,000 lbs.

Simple answer - check the rear GAWR of the said F250, compare it to your current rear GAWR, and that's your increase in payload.

If you're super worried about the whole legal thing, get your truck re-registered for the front + rear GAWR. Depending on your local law, you may need an upfitter to re-certify a new GAWR, according to the axle's manufacturer's rating (not Ford's).

I switched out nitrogen in my tires for helium. It made the truck 203.662 pounds lighter which increased my payload.

valhalla360 wrote:
Do you have a 3/4 ton and you are putting 1 ton springs on or 1/2ton and putting 3/4ton springs on?

It's not really clear.

The OP has an Excursion.

IdaD wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

DutchmenSport wrote:
I think the only sure-fire, 100%, no questions, bonified, way to change the payload is to get a new truck! :B

Or buy tires with a lower load rating.

Friend of mine did this without even knowing it like most people do. His rear GAWR on his Ram 3500 SRW is 7,000 lbs. He went from the stock Firestone tires that have a 3,640 lb rating(enough to cover the 7,000 lb GAWR) to a 275/60R20 BFG T/A KO2 tire with a 3,000 lb rating. This essentially dropped his rear GAWR to 6,000 lbs which is 500 lbs lower than my 2500's 6,500 lbs GAWR.

Although, that sticker on the door is meant for OE tires per the law that made the manufacturers put it there. If you get something other than OE tires then that sticker is useless.

Is that the load rating for that 20" size or did he get a lower rated tire by accident? I put 18" KO2s on my truck recently and they have the same 3,640 lb rating as the stock Firestones.

Only that specific size. Some KO2 20"s have a 3,750 lb or higher rating just like some of the 18" KO2's sizes have less than 3,500 lbs rating. He should have known something was up when it said max psi was 65 on the side wall, but that is not always a good indicator for every tire.

I think he just did like most people do and just asked for specific brand or style of tire trusting the the person putting them on will get the right load rating for the vehicle.

ShinerBock wrote:

DutchmenSport wrote:
I think the only sure-fire, 100%, no questions, bonified, way to change the payload is to get a new truck! :B

Or buy tires with a lower load rating.

Friend of mine did this without even knowing it like most people do. His rear GAWR on his Ram 3500 SRW is 7,000 lbs. He went from the stock Firestone tires that have a 3,640 lb rating(enough to cover the 7,000 lb GAWR) to a 275/60R20 BFG T/A KO2 tire with a 3,000 lb rating. This essentially dropped his rear GAWR to 6,000 lbs which is 500 lbs lower than my 2500's 6,500 lbs GAWR.

Although, that sticker on the door is meant for OE tires per the law that made the manufacturers put it there. If you get something other than OE tires then that sticker is useless.

Is that the load rating for that 20" size or did he get a lower rated tire by accident? I put 18" KO2s on my truck recently and they have the same 3,640 lb rating as the stock Firestones.

DutchmenSport wrote:
I think the only sure-fire, 100%, no questions, bonified, way to change the payload is to get a new truck! :B

Or buy tires with a lower load rating.

Friend of mine did this without even knowing it like most people do. His rear GAWR on his Ram 3500 SRW is 7,000 lbs. He went from the stock Firestone tires that have a 3,640 lb rating(enough to cover the 7,000 lb GAWR) to a 275/60R20 BFG T/A KO2 tire with a 3,000 lb rating. This essentially dropped his rear GAWR to 6,000 lbs which is 500 lbs lower than my 2500's 6,500 lbs GAWR.

Although, that sticker on the door is meant for OE tires per the law that made the manufacturers put it there. If you get something other than OE tires then that sticker is useless.

I think the only sure-fire, 100%, no questions, bonified, way to change the payload is to get a new truck! :B