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Is my F150 powerful enough?

camper766
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So after a few years of camping with a pop up, we recently traded in for a travel trailer. To say it hasn't gone smoothly would be a major understatement! We went to our local dealer and found the perfect camper for us, a Salem 300BH. The dealer asked about what we would be towing it with, which was our 2014 F150 Eco boost. Dealer said "no way, that camper is way to heavy for an F150."

I told him that was total BS, my cousin works for Ford and has told me that the Eco Boost can tow far more than an F250 diesel because of the advanced technology of the turbo charger. Also the transmission has more gears than a diesel. Although the Salem is much heavier than the published towing weights for the F150 (it weighs something like 10-12,000 lbs), my cousin has explained that all the published numbers come from corporate attorneys who are deathly afraid of being sued by the "ambulance chasers," instead of engineers who really understand the truck.

Anyway, since dealer #1 clearly didn't want to sell me a camper, I headed off to dealer #2, answer was the same - you need a bigger truck. Apparently these people just aren't familiar with the Eco Boost, so I had to come up with an alternate plan. My neighbor has an F450 SuperDuty diesel and agreed to drive to the dealership with me so I could take delivery and bring the camper back to my house.

This is where it turns bad. I hitch my truck up to the camper and things just don't look right. The back end of the truck is sagging really bad and the front has raised up like 4". I took it around the block and the handling is just terrible, even at 25mph. The setup looks ridiculous. Funny because the F450 didn't sag at all and had a great ride. I know my truck is just a powerful, but it's like there is something wrong with the suspension. My friend with the F450 said the same thing as the dealer, need a bigger truck, or at the very least some kind of a special weight something or other hitch. I don't know what that is and I really don't want to buy anything else. Anyway, he thinks I'm crazy trying to pull that trailer with my truck and said I'll end up killing myself if I try. At the very least he said I'd destroy my truck and void the warranty.

Personally, I think the problem is that the weight just isn't balanced right and that's why the truck is sagging so bad. The weight should be centered over the trailer's axles, then there would be very little or no weight riding on the truck and it wouldn't sag and should handle like normal. We moved everything we could to the back but that made no difference. How can I balance the trailer? I'm really starting to think I've made a horrible mistake. We leave on a big trip in less than a week and my wife is scared to go with it like it is. Seriously need help!!!
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Rookiecamper
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With the front end 4" high, the gas mileage will really be bad driving up hill constantly ๐Ÿ˜‰
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jmcgsd
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Explorer
Funniest part is that he says that Two dealers refused to sell him the trailer! I thought most dealers will sell you a 40' fifth wheel to pull with your '71 Datsun.
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SprinklerMan
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Go with the bigger truck , bigger is always better . 3/4 ton

korbe
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camper766 wrote:
......I appreciate everyones help.

What? Every one here has been slamming you for the post and you thank us? It's been fun.
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dave54
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Nomad
Just a new set of maxxis tires and he will be good to go.
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TomG2
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I apologize if I misjudged the OP, this quote is one more reason I think that he is having fun with us.

"...The RV dealer is willing to work with me and take the camper back, if that's what I want to do."

Have any of you actually seen a dealer reverse a deal because of "Buyer's remorse"? I have never seen one even come close. My last dealer had the manager examine my 2500 pickup to verify that it was good for towing a 6,000 pound travel trailer.

mosseater
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I admire your sand, OP. Wading in the 12' pool like that. Edjamacation! Always good. Supposing? Always bad.
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Need-A-Vacation
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Make your cousin open his wallet up for his ill advised knowledge!!!

You definitely need a wd hitch with most travel trailers, and having an integrated sway control is even better!

Reese Dual Cam, Reese SC, and Equal-I-Zer 4 way systems are a few good, middle of the road priced set ups.
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camper766
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Clearly I'm in waaaay over my head here. Spoke to someone over at the Ford dealership today who was really knowledgable. He was able to explain the various weight ratings of the truck and the how and why behind those numbers in a way even I could understand. The only one who's a bigger idiot than my cousin is me for listening to him. I guess I just really wanted to believe my truck could do anything. I thought it was all about power, I understood nothing about payload and axle weight ratings.

No matter what this will cost me big time. The RV dealer is willing to work with me and take the camper back, if that's what I want to do. Still a bad deal though, I'll get a smaller cheaper camper without paying extra. Or I may trade in for a bigger truck. Either way, I clearly have MUCH to learn before I make a decision. I appreciate everyones help.

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
You will need max payload and max towing options on that F150.
Open the truck door and check if you have 8,200 GVWR.
Yes you will need a sway control weight distribution hitch.

Forest River Salem 300BH

spoon059
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TomG2 wrote:
Why hasn't anyone pointed out that a new set of tires and a twenty dollar spacer will turn his pickup into a F-450 like his friend's.

That's just foolish Tom... to be a 450 he needs the spacer and another set of rear wheels. Be serious...
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GMandJM
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Heck, he could just go over to his friend's house and steal the F-450 badging off the truck and put that on his 150. Problem solved: He now has an F-450.

(EDIT: Deleted out the creepy emoji)
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TomG2
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Why hasn't anyone pointed out that a new set of tires and a twenty dollar spacer will turn his pickup into a F-450 like his friend's.

OutdoorPhotogra
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I bet OP is a regular poster under a new handle to post the joke/troll. I do think he intended it to e parody that we caught on to.

He used most or all of the arguments on why ecoboost can outpull a 3/4 ton. Mentions a weight distrobution thing. A little too over the top with too many issues to be a true newbie post.
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GMandJM
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spoon059 wrote:
My 6 cylinder Ram 2500 (17K lbs tow rating) can outhaul your 8 cylinder F250 (14K lbs tow rating)... Just saying...:B


Now, Spoon....let's not get the "grocery-getter" fools all riled up again. :B
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