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Looking for a 4000 lb (or less) TT

coolmom42
Explorer II
Explorer II
After much dithering & thinking & number crunching, I've finally decided that my "retirement rig" needs to be a SUV (Highlander or Explorer) with 5000 lb tow package, combined with a traditional hard-side travel trailer of 4000 lb GVWR or less.

I like a front bed/rear bath layout, with a mid kitchen. So far I've found these candidates:

Jayco SLX 145RB with unloaded wt. 2330, GWR 2995, cargo 665. Fresh/gray/black capacities of 10/15/9 gallons.

or the

Amerilite 14RBC with unloaded wt. 2230, GVWR not given, cargo 1050. Fresh/gray/black capacities of 30/36/36.

Can I assume that GVWR of the Amerilite is the total of 2230 + 1050 = 3280, even though it's not explicitly listed?

Does the the GVWR of the Jayco imply that it is on a less sturdy frame?

I was partner in an Amerilite (21MB) for a few years, and was pretty happy with it. Have no experience with Jaycos, but have friends who like theirs.

The Amerilite is a few inches taller inside, which is good for a person who is 5'10".

I'm also NOT a fan of the small tank capacities of the Jayco. 10 gallons of fresh water is pretty lame.

For sure travelling with all the tanks full would use up most of the cargo capacity of the Amerilite, but no reason to do that.

Does anyone have input on either one of these specific trailers?

Any other rear-bath layout small trailers that you could recommend?
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board
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DRKMinWA
Explorer
Explorer
We have been very happy with this http://www.pacificcoachworks.com/products/econ-e16rb/ trailer. It's GVWR is 3,850.

I'm 6' 2" and the interior height is just fine. It's only 7 ft wide so the island bed is snug but easy enough for me to get around. Dry bath and a tub. Limited holding tanks yes. Tows very nice. I use a weight distribution hitch as I have dual propane tanks and dual 6 volt golf cart batteries on the tongue so mine is heavy up front.

We have this unit just shy of 3 years and the only issue we have encountered was a water fitting under the sink loosened up and dripped a bit. Remove one panel and retighten was all there was to it. Caught it almost immediately.

Good luck in your search.
Rick & Kathy
2014 Econ 16RB
2013 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

deltabravo
Nomad
Nomad
jonmad wrote:
We had a Clipper 17 FQ and loved it... Queen bed and nice size bath....


The bath is HUGE for such a small trailer. ๐Ÿ™‚
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jonmad
Explorer
Explorer
Camsmom wrote:
That Viking 16FB is the layout I was referring to. I think if we had that two extra feet with the little dinette, we probably would still have it. The 14 was just a little small, with no real area to sit with the dinette made up as permanent bed. It had the window ac unit in the wall as well which worked perfect. And cheap to replace if needed too.


We had a Clipper 17 FQ and loved it... Queen bed and nice size bath....

Camsmom
Explorer
Explorer
That Viking 16FB is the layout I was referring to. I think if we had that two extra feet with the little dinette, we probably would still have it. The 14 was just a little small, with no real area to sit with the dinette made up as permanent bed. It had the window ac unit in the wall as well which worked perfect. And cheap to replace if needed too.

deltabravo
Nomad
Nomad
Coachmen Viking Ultralites are nice.

The Clipper model is similar to the Viking
There's also the Viking Saga, which is a step below the Viking.

Clippers and Vikings are separate lines and my research shows they aren't sold a the same dealers.
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2018 Arctic Fox 992 with an Onan 2500i "quiet" model generator

bobndot
Explorer II
Explorer II
check out model 1475 .

http://www.lancecamper.com/travel-trailers/

hvac, don't know if you saw this...... you can add another 10 gals of water on the floor behind the seats keeping the additional weight between the axles.
Its dead space that also can be turned into flat space for storing items.

https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/water-solutions/front-runner-footwell-water-tank.html

poppin_fresh
Explorer
Explorer
What about a Keystone Bullet Crossfire 1800?

A little over your desired GVWR, but not by much and has 43, 30, 30 Fresh, Gray, Black.
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Golden_HVAC
Explorer
Explorer
Are you considering this as something to live in or something to go visit all the United States, and see all the National Parks?

You might also want to consider a small van based class C. Get the gas version. The diesel comes at way to much premium cost for the expensive imported chassis.

A used 2004 - 2010 class C can be found in the $25,000 range, and will have larger tanks than you mentioned, and will be able to carry a couple more 6 gallon tanks of water. You can use a bungy cord and ladder to hang the tanks near the fresh water tank, then siphon the water into the fresh water tank.

With a class C in the 23- 25' long range, it is compact enough to park on a city street while out sightseeing, and in grocery store parking lots. Easier to maneuver and park than the proposed SUV and trailer.

Good luck,

Fred.
Money can't buy happiness but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a

Porsche or Country Coach!



If there's a WILL, I want to be in it!



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Golden_HVAC
Explorer
Explorer
I lived very comfortably in my 1997 30' long Fleetwood Bounder 30E. It did not have a slide, and I bought it brand new.

It has a 100 gallon fresh water tank, 59 gallon black, 42 gallon grey tank. I could stay in it for 2 weeks dry camping in the forest service, or BLM land without moving or dumping tanks, while taking daily showers of about 3 minutes each day.

So my recommendation is to go larger, and forget getting 18 MPG, you just will not get that kind of MPG while towing. And you probably will find that you only need to average about 5000 miles a year, so 8 MPG that my motorhome got was not really all that expensive afterall. So it used 600 gallons a year in gasoline, 6 quarts of oil and a $8 filter, 100 gallons of propane (give or take). I have a 400 watt solar system, they are very in-expensive now.

Sometimes I would spend 1-2 nights a month in hookup campgrounds, doing laundry at the same time. Or find a laundrymat in town, and take over 3-4 of the large tumbling machines for 1 hour, and the dryers for 30 minutes. All laundry done in 3 hours max, including time to drive to town and fold, and put away.

Does your plan include staying in hookup sites all the time? Do you almost require them to prevent running out of water after 3 nights showers? That is why I would recommend going larger - large enough that you can stay in dry camping 2 weeks at a time, perhaps 3 weeks if you can find fresh water while out sightseeing, and bring it back with 6 gallon containers.

My thought when I do retire is to get a 30 gallon fresh water tank and 12 volt pump, put it in the back of my car, and fill it someplace, bring it back to the RV and fill that tank.

Once I spent about a month in one location, I did feed the local plants with grey water (legal if you are not in a campground, and dig a hole so it will not attract flies). I had a Direct TV antenna and system to watch TV and enjoyed myself while full timing for about 1 year, most of that time without hookups.

Good luck on your decision. I was towing a van with a tow dolly while full timing. Once I had a job again I bought a Ford Edge (powerful engine and roomy inside, but at 4,200 pounds a little to heavy, and large as a tow vehicle). I would recommend looking at Honda CRV or other small car as a towed vehicle. I also have a Manx Dune buggy, but that is not really ideal when it is raining - no top. At 1,500 pounds, I don't need a braking system. With my Edge, I use a cruise control motor, and apply vacuum to it when I apply the RV brakes, so it pulls the cable, pulls the brake pedal to the floor. Works great. . .

Fred.

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If you check my prior posts, and search for solar, you can see how mine is installed, pictures, and description.
Money can't buy happiness but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a

Porsche or Country Coach!



If there's a WILL, I want to be in it!



I havn't been everywhere, but it's on my list.

Kangen.com Alkaline water

Escapees.com

Camsmom
Explorer
Explorer
We had the same layout in a Spree Escape as our first travel trailer. It was just a little small. We left the dinette made up with a real mattress but the little sofa wasn't very comfortable. I have seen the same layout, just a slight bit bigger, maybe a foot where the bed is permanent, east west still but instead of the little sofa on the side there was a two person dinette.

coolmom42
Explorer II
Explorer II
danimal53 wrote:
Coachmen Clipper 14r has 33gallon fresh tank, and same layout as the two you mentioned.

clipper 14r

you can go slightly longer than 14 and still be under 4,000lb, there are 16-17ft that have a fixed bed instead of using the dinette bed. Clipper 16fb or 17fb.


Thanks, I like the looks of those!
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board

danimal53
Explorer
Explorer
Coachmen Clipper 14r has 33gallon fresh tank, and same layout as the two you mentioned.

clipper 14r

you can go slightly longer than 14 and still be under 4,000lb, there are 16-17ft that have a fixed bed instead of using the dinette bed. Clipper 16fb or 17fb.
2010 Jeep Liberty Sport 4x4
2016 Coachman Clipper 17BH

Take a look at the Forest River R-Pod RP-180.

We had an R-Pod and loved it until we decided we wanted a walk-around bed and dry bath.
2015 Crossroads Rushmore Springfield
2015 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Duramax