Marker lights pj

[pjay9]

With all the new LED lights there must be improved mounting systems too...anyone got suggestions? BTW, do we need by law have to have the two amber markers on the front of the TC..it is a possible leak waiting to happen. Or do you have suggestion for sealing or installing?

[pjay9]

trail-explorer wrote:
The rear awning makes the airfoil impractical on campers with a real awning.

How do you figure? Show some pics of what would be impractical...doesn't strike me as an issue. HUMMM!!!

[trail-explorer]

The rear awning makes the airfoil impractical on campers with a real awning.

[pjay9]

Delta, I like those and if I had to change out the back lights I'd go to those. My backs appear to be just fine, since they are in the Lance metal overhang, I am going to leave them alone, unless there is evidence of an issue once that is removed.

It is the fronts that are the biggest issues,(I feel)for most folks...those sealed units still have two screw holes and a wire hole.

[pjay9]

CAJW, I am happy they made it...last I spoke with them, they were really done...great they have made it...I never bothered to look for them again...good for you for double checking. OK here's my take on the foil...everyone who has a dirt issue on the back and want to eliminate it...GET ONE! Someplace here on RVNEt there is a theard about this. Edit: I had a search and found some threads in 2008. not much more than what you see in current pics.

[CAJW]

pjay9 wrote:
As always I am doing research and have been wondering about this type. One hole no screws...I retrofit similar on my boat trailer cause the square surface mount type were always getting broken, just in a bad place to get knocked, so these have been on for a couple of years and still fine. Used on boat trailer

Then I saw these as well similar.
Chrome bezel

ON the Lance the back markers are mounted on a metal overhang reverse cant flashing effort along with the high intensity back up lights...don't expect any leak issue here for lights, may be others associated with the metal bit...will not know until removed...also the TC was wired for Back Up Cam, wires should be there too.

METAL OVERHANG



Before you ask: The air deflector keeps the back very clean, even in dust and snow/slush conditions. They are not made any longer, with the poor economy of the last six years the company found that not enough extra funds available from folks that had buses, their main client. Too bad RV folks didn't offer as an option.

PJ, looks like I found the airfoil company online. I'll be contacting them next week as this looks to be a great idea. Thanks for the picture! See II Air Foils

[deltabravo]

trail-explorer wrote:
Here's what I think is the best light, because it's totally sealed.

Sealed Marker Light, red or amber

Those are the lights I installed on my AF811. hands down the best light there is.

[MORSNOW]

After a quick google search I think the Command Electronics LED is what mine has. The white back and shape looks correct.

[deltabravo]

MORSNOW wrote:

trail-explorer wrote:

AF and Wolf Creek use these now, last I knew: http://www.ledtrailerlights.com/cm-mcl32.htm

Those LED marker lights are not what my 2014 Wolf Creek 850 has from the factory. Mine are LED but do not match those.

Yours probably has lights from Command Electronics. For a very short time period, Northwood was using Command Electronics LED lights, then switch to the Optronics light posted above.

[MORSNOW]

trail-explorer wrote:

AF and Wolf Creek use these now, last I knew: http://www.ledtrailerlights.com/cm-mcl32.htm

Those LED marker lights are not what my 2014 Wolf Creek 850 has from the factory. Mine are LED but do not match those.

[trail-explorer]

Here's what I think is the best light, because it's totally sealed.

Sealed Marker Light, red or amber

I upgraded to those on my previous RV and never had an issue with them.

AF and Wolf Creek use these now, last I knew: http://www.ledtrailerlights.com/cm-mcl32.htm

They are nice lights, but just like any light with a removable lens, water can eventually get in the lens, and dust, then green slime grows in there in the climate of the great Pacific NorthWet.

[trail-explorer]

path1 wrote:

BTW, do we need by law have to have the two amber markers on the front of the TC

NO, not in my opinion. Marker lights were probably great on tiny 2 lanes years ago.

Anything over a certain width IS required to have marker lights indicating the outer corners. I think it's 80" width and over.

FMVSS108 and CMVSS108 describe marker light requirements.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/TBMpstr.html

[pjay9]

As always I am doing research and have been wondering about this type. One hole no screws...I retrofit similar on my boat trailer cause the square surface mount type were always getting broken, just in a bad place to get knocked, so these have been on for a couple of years and still fine. Used on boat trailer

Then I saw these as well similar.
Chrome bezel

ON the Lance the back markers are mounted on a metal overhang reverse cant flashing effort along with the high intensity back up lights...don't expect any leak issue here for lights, may be others associated with the metal bit...will not know until removed...also the TC was wired for Back Up Cam, wires should be there too.

METAL OVERHANG



Before you ask: The air deflector keeps the back very clean, even in dust and snow/slush conditions. They are not made any longer, with the poor economy of the last six years the company found that not enough extra funds available from folks that had buses, their main client. Too bad RV folks didn't offer as an option.

Back to lites...ONE HOLE even if it is bigger...the whole circumference is visible for inspection, no hidden screws and wire hole...since the TC is getting a rebuild then a prepared mounting spot for this type could be made easily.

[path1]

BTW, do we need by law have to have the two amber markers on the front of the TC

NO, not in my opinion. Marker lights were probably great on tiny 2 lanes years ago. Maybe eve when cars had black outs during WWII. But they are still required Yes. I thought about the same question about leaks. Every light is 3 leaks waiting to happen. 2 screw holes and 1 hole for the wire in each light. Times 5 lights across the front of your RV and presto... 15 places for water to get in. And that is just the front of RV.

My answer was to make a inspection panel on the inside that flops down, I remove a small shelf that I put in and then the small panel flops down right where lights are. Allows me access to inspect twice a year. Rest of the time just looks like book shelf.

Still waiting for rear of RV to figure out something. Shower is in back corner and just can't cut an access hole in it.

[pjay9]

rvten wrote:
If they were not required by law. MFG would not spend the $$ to put them on.

TRUE!!