new F150 towing capacities

[PureMI]

looks like it will be a pretty capable TV
http://www.leftlanenews.com/fords-2015-f-150-tows-12-200-lbs-mpg-jumps-by-up-to-20-percent.html

[majorgator]

Or a boat. The other factor is the wind resistance. A 12k flat bed is MUCH easier to tow then a 12k RV.

^^^^THIS^^^^
Published towing capacities are basically useless. Still, they don't address major issues like stability and handling. I still contend that its absolutely unsafe for these smallish trucks to haul such heavy loads.

[ROBERTSUNRUS]

Gr8life wrote:

smkettner wrote:
Properly equipped the payload is just over 3,000#

GM and RAM have many models with that kind of payload, they call theirs 2500's. Ford insists on winning the name game. I wish one of the others would rebadge a 1000 to show how silly that ploy really is. I have looked at a lot of new pickups in the last twenty years and have never seen one of these "Properly equipped" F-150's on the lot, or I might have purchased one. Instead, I got stuck with the regular models which were just okay.

🙂 Hi, I'm very close to buying a new F-150 and you are right about not finding any "Properly Equipped" on the lot. I need Max Trailer Tow Package for the towing mirrors and enough payload to handle my trailer and things. The dealer has to trade with another Ford dealer out of state to get one.

[shelbyj]

8iron wrote:
Most here are assuming that published max trailer weights are referring to an RV trailer. It's all advertising trickery but a triaxle flatbed trailer loaded with cinder blocks can easily weight 12,000# yet have a tongue weight that does not exceed the payload if a half ton.

Or a boat. The other factor is the wind resistance. A 12k flat bed is MUCH easier to tow then a 12k RV.

[8iron]

Most here are assuming that published max trailer weights are referring to an RV trailer. It's all advertising trickery but a triaxle flatbed trailer loaded with cinder blocks can easily weight 12,000# yet have a tongue weight that does not exceed the payload if a half ton.

[Speedogomer]

My Father's 2009 F150 has 2600# of payload. It's not unheard of to see high payload F150s, however he did order his, which he does with all his trucks. He has a 2013 F250 now, and swears his F150 (which he still has) towed better, admittedly with a different 5er.

[time2roll]

Yes I think the properly equipped F150 is often special ordered often in fleet for a business.
Just a 60 day wait to have the truck exactly the way you want.

[Gr8life]

smkettner wrote:
Properly equipped the payload is just over 3,000#

GM and RAM have many models with that kind of payload, they call theirs 2500's. Ford insists on winning the name game. I wish one of the others would rebadge a 1000 to show how silly that ploy really is. I have looked at a lot of new pickups in the last twenty years and have never seen one of these "Properly equipped" F-150's on the lot, or I might have purchased one. Instead, I got stuck with the regular models which were just okay.

[rbpru]

On the door post sticker my F-150 says max cargo of 1411 lbs. this is with the towing package. Other models will vary a bit depending on the trim package.

Yes, with the towing option I have I can pull 9500 lbs.; “provided” I do not exceed the 1411 max cargo. So if I have 1000 lbs. of tongue weight, 50 lbs. of WD hitch, 150 lbs. of truck cap and tools. I could pull a 9500 lb. load, provided I did not weigh over 200 lbs. and I did not want to take the DW, kids or the dog.

It is not the load pulling capacity that stops you, it is the max cargo and how much over it you want to load your truck.

[time2roll]

^^^^ probably best to find the full J2807 testing specs before you decry that nothing applies to the real world.

[majorgator]

SAE J2807 defines the criteria for setting a weight. C&D offered a good summary. It is acceleration @ WOT based for the weight rating, which IMHO is not how most people drive.

That article is a little bit dated, but still probably relevant to matter at hand. I did find their guidelines to be funny. They want to try and level the playing field and make it more "real world", but those guidelines still don't accomplish that. Its more like those strong-man competitions that used to be real popular. They're measuring limited criteria on a brand new vehicle for short durations of time.

Climbing that grade at no less than 40 MPH for only 11 miles?
The acceleration times being tested??

Unfortunately, I didn't see anything in there about braking. Perhaps the truck can climb that grade just fine, but what's the trans temp once it reaches the top? How does the truck do coming down?

As APT said, these tests don't reflect how real people drive.

[APT]

SAE J2807 defines the criteria for setting a weight. C&D offered a good summary. It is acceleration @ WOT based for the weight rating, which IMHO is not how most people drive. And RVing limits will be lower due to payload and receiver limits.

Still, a 4WD crew cab with HD towing package is likely to have about 2300 pounds of payload, 100-200 more than 2014 models.

[K_Charles]

Our SUV says it will tow 10,000 and if we had gotten the low rear end gears it was supposed to be 13,000. I can break the speed limit most anywhere pulling a little over 8,000 but I wouldn't want to go much higher. I don't know who come up with the numbers but they must be right at the limit.

[fla-gypsy]

beemerphile1 wrote:
What is the payload capacity? A 12,200# trailer will have maybe 1,400# or more tongue weight. Then add all the bicycles, gear, and passengers.

Did you miss the part where properly equipped F-150's will sport 3300lb payload ratings and will be using the new SAE standard?

[2012Coleman]

MajorGator is correct Clicky

[time2roll]

beemerphile1 wrote:
What is the payload capacity? A 12,200# trailer will have maybe 1,400# or more tongue weight. Then add all the bicycles, gear, and passengers.

Properly equipped the payload is just over 3,000#