Payload sacrifice going from regular cab to crew cab

Pretty much every one ton dually made since the ‘70s uses either a Dana 80, AAM or Sterling 10.5 rear axle. They’re all rated between 10,000 and 11,000 pounds.
Just go get any dually and you’re fine to haul a camper.
Forget all this adding hot e weight of the sunroof or the fancier sound system or the rating sticker, which is a taxable license class weight not a truck safe capability rating.

jaycocreek wrote:


It is very deceiving and why almost everyone with a truck camper is over weight,not all,but most..

That's mostly due to fact that 1/2 ton truck owner, seeing nice campers at the lakes want one of those 10-12' units as well.
Even I have 1 of the biggest campers on the roads and I weight it over 6000 lb with COG behind rear axle, my rear axle is still 1000 lb below its rating, while front, regardless Honda 3000 on front hitch is about 1500 lb below the ratings.
Cheap owners will drive whole year on donut spare. Not much we can do about it, but trying to educate.

iwanttoretireearly wrote:
In general, how much payload capacity do you sacrifice going from regular cab to crew cab? Let's keep it simple and compare single wheel pickups-not duellys. I did the calculation for the 2013 Chevy Silverado 3500 and it was 581 pounds! Is that normal?

Your not going to get a Lance 850 to be under GVWR on an older 1-ton truck and most new ones..

Example:
My '94 Ford F-350 Dually has 4600# of payload and my Lance 9.6 TC(2659#) is a spitting image of the Lance 850 but a couple inches longer..When all is said and done,ready to camp,I am almost at my GVWR with 4600# payload,depending how much I take with me.. My Ford is a Super cab..

What is being missed here in all your post is that the GVWR,especially on older trucks,is without anyone in it and nothing extra that was not on it at the factory..Everything counts,after market this or that/human weight/pet weight/tools/chains or anything in the jockey box...

It is very deceiving and why almost everyone with a truck camper is over weight,not all,but most..

I think if you are worried about the weight of the doors, you might want to consider a DRW. I think the numbers you are seeing is about right.

I know ford has a table of payload limits for truck campers...I'm sure the other brands have similar.

Look up the cab, engine and number of drive wheels and for each truck type (150, 250, 350), it gives you the rated load.

Yes, the tiny cab does buy you a few hundred pounds of payload.

don't try to tow anything near the max weight limit of your truck and you will never notice.

Ford in last years is using aluminium body panels and thinner, heat-treated frame. So shaving 180 lb comparing to steel sounds about right.

According to Ford specs, the difference between a standard cab short bed vs crew cab short bed is just under 400 lbs.

It is customer who wants to pay lower registration fees, isn't it?
Would manufacturers give the stickers adequate to truck technical specs, lot of buyers would leave Supertruck lots and go buy Toyota to avoid high fees.

JimK-NY wrote:
Pickup trucks are just amazing. You start with heavy duty construction, then add a crew cab, then get a diesel to pull it, now the thing weighs so much the cargo capacity drops to a fraction of the weight of the truck.

And so it begins again.

:R

(where's my popcorn...)

- Mark0.