I was told by DH we needed a rear awning mostly to keep rain out of the door not so much for shade. Went hunting and with our very old camper and being a Shadow Cruiser with those darned wigns taking up nearly a foot of the back wall nothing new short of a grand for the armless 12v style will work, ugh. The wings moved the ladder over to only a couple inches max clearance for side arm clearance between it and the door which is offset to accommodate the rear bath. I whipped one up that worked inside the barn but in real life we found it had issues. Next I've gone to an ARB 4'bag awning that was quite inexpensive and attached it to the roof rack rail with custom brackets. It requires a ladder to stow back into the bag and Chinese builders put the straps in upside down to be able to secure it, working on a fix for that. The biggest problem is that it was designed for vehicle roof rack height and the pitch is too steep for door clearance in any location other that perfectly level. Since we use a cargo tray for steps and generator I mounted angled Maine rail end caps on the cargo tray to gain elevation as ARB couldn't address the needed leg extension issue, shortened the fabric to get the right angle for the support arms, drilled some pin holes to always have the angles needed and it will now work wherever we park. Royal pain in the arse but functional. The lead bar has a "C" track slot to add a shade extension and I'll use the awning I'd sewn up there. Still, we need to pack the collapsible ladder but always did anyway. I saw an older Carefree on the back of an older Lance at the Texas Rally that would have been perfect, nice skinny side arms and a pull down that the owner said he very seldom used. Like a dummy I never even thought to ask if he'd sell it and then he could have gotten a nice new one that was more simple to operate for his DW that was the only one who used it. If you have the space they're nice in icky weather. I'm going to check at dead camper places to see if one like that can be had. I'd even take one that the fabric was gone from as I can fix that myself as long as the frame worked! Fat chance there. Carefree updated for newer campers and discontinued that version. Drat!