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Fourjs
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We bought our TT in January and have taken 3 trips. All great. Being newbies, we have learned lessons every time.

So far, our trips have been short. We haven't had to stop and fill our TV with the trailer attached. Eventually, I'll be faced with that situation. Not something I'm looking forward to doing, but I know it'll happen eventually. My worst nightmare would be getting hemmed in at close quarters with no way out.

FYI, our TT is 35 ft. TV is 176" truck.

Looking for what you do and how you handle filling up. Any suggestions and wisdom is greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for your replies.

Jimmy
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DutchmenSport
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One more comment for the OP.

After you have towed your camper a few more times, you will probably start consciously asking yourself every time you pull into a gas station (when you are NOT towing) ... "If I had the camper with me right now, how would I navigate this gas station."

It really does become part of your natural thinking, even when not towing.

I don't know how many times my wife and I have been out running around (in our car) and we'll end up in a parking lot, or down some road, and I've made the comment, "How in the world would we get the camper down this road?" Or "How in the world would we get the camper in THIS parking lot!" She laughs at me every time.

When you start thinking like this, even when not towing, I think you'll find navigating those gas stations much less threatening.

Edit:
I just though of 2 more things to add to my, already LONG list!

One: You really need to know the limitations of your rig? How tight will it turn, where are the blind spots under which conditions. How wide is it. Looking in the mirrors, what am I really seeing, judging my distance. In other words, the more experience you have with your camper, the more confident you become with it. What once appeared to be an impossible situation to maneuver with your rig, is now child's play. Know your vehicle and knowing it's limitations is everything!

Two: Knowing your own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to towing, and NOT being afraid to stretch your weakness, your fears, your doubts. In other words, the more difficult situations you find yourself in, the MORE you learn and grow. Is it painful! Oh yea! But only in the moment. Once you get through it, the next time, you're not near as afraid!

lanerd
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When we had our TT, I always looked for stations that the pumps were parallel to the street.

Ron
Ron & Sandie
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RETIRED!! How sweet it is....

DutchmenSport
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Fourjs wrote:
...FYI, our TT is 35 ft. TV is 176" truck....

Looking for what you do and how you handle filling up. Any suggestions
Jimmy


My TT is 35.5 feet long and with my carrier on the back it's 2.5 feet longer. My truck is 252 inches (21 feet). That's a total length of 59 feet from bumper to bumper. I'm long.

And I will say, except in a very few situations, I've never had any real problem filling up with diesel at normal auto gas stations. But, here's why?

First, I don't make any attempts to use fuel stations in larger towns, or down-town areas. Those stations do have smaller pump areas, and often positioned completely wrong to get any kind of RV in the bays.

Second, I don't mind driving past a fuel station to find another one if it looks like it's too tight to fit once I get to it. I've passed several up, just to go on another mile and have much better options.

Third, I look for fuel stations that advertise diesel. My truck takes diesel, and if they sell diesel, they most likely have a diesel pump situated so that a larger vehicle can reach it.

Fourth, I always plan on fueling when the tank is 1/2 empty. In the remote event there is no diesel service available in the immediate area, this gives me an extra 150 miles or more to find one! I'm never in panic mode because I'm breathing fumes.

Fifth, sometimes you just have to be patient to get up to the pump in a traditional gas station if you are towing a longer trailer. But.... because you are so big ... well ... folks ARE going to get pi$$ed-off at you because they have to go around you, but they'll get over it!

Sixth, Sometimes you have to wait to exit because of the flow of traffic or parked cars in your way. You have to be prepared to go backwards at every fuel station, so pick your pump wisely grasshopper!

Seventh, if you DO have to back up, even a few feet, so you can get a wider swing, or avoid a parked car, or for whatever reason, have your spouse spot you behind the camper.... always! Why? Because jerk-off drivers, even though you are actually moving backwards, will STILL try to get round you, squeeze between your camper and the curb, or your camper and the next bay, or your camper and the front parking row! They zoom around you and you don't even know they are there! They ARE rude, so you need your spotter to warn you. When your camper is in a backing angle, you cannot see what's going on, on the blind side of the camper!

Eighth, sometimes you have to around the building, or come into the pump bay area a different way, other than the main road. Many, many, many times we've pulled into a gas station and drove completely around the building to get the only diesel pump at the end of the row of bays.

Ninth, you ALWAYS have to be aware of which side your gas tank fill is on. Nothing worse than finally navigating up to the pump, just to suddenly remember.... oh ****! The tank is on the other side of the vehicle. That means leaving and circling around somehow different. I've actually had that happen. We ended up just pulling on around and found another fueling station. Turning the rig the opposite direction was simply impossible.

Tenth, you REALLY have to be patient, and somewhat forgiving of stupid, inconsiderate, idiots and jerks who just don't realize you can't move 60 feet of train like a VW bug!

Eleventh, I use the app, GasBuddy and have it set to Diesel on my Smartphone. Not only does it give the locations of stations that sell diesel, but the mapping program allows you to zoom in and see the gas station layout. If it looks too tight, you know to skip it. There have been very few we've skipped after making a selection, mostly, NOT because of the layout of the fuel station, but because of the access and existing traffic around the fuel station.

I think in 20 years of RV ownership, I've gotten myself jack-up only once! Only because it looked like I could get around the building and once I got around it, it was closed off. I had to back out clear to the road and back onto the road to get out. Talk about a LOT of pi$$ed-off drivers on the highway! OH MY! My wife was wonderful as a spotter!


Last: I don't use truck stops. I despise them. The bays for the trucks to fill up diesel are almost always oily, spills of diesel, cat litter everywhere to absorb the oil and diesel spills, and usually very busy with the big rigs. I just don't like the dirty oily mess everywhere. And states like Indiana are very confusing, as Truck Stop pumps are set up for Tax Exempt Commercial drivers. You've got to look for the "auto diesel" pumps anyway. Because of living in Indiana, I never know what to expect at a truck stop, so I simply don't use them. I prefer normal gas stations that sell diesel.

Jack_Diane_Free
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We are the same size as you and I have never had a problem finding a place to gas up. Look for gas stations that have a front street and a side street. Use the end pump closest to the side street and then exit the side street exit or enter from the side street, use end pump and leave using the. Front street exit. Works for me.

4aSong
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wing_zealot wrote:

I sometimes travel 500 - 600 miles a day. I have even went over a 1,200 miles before I unhooked and set up camp. How would you recommend I fill up when the trailer is not connected?


Follow Johno02's advise...
If you are going that far each day, your aren't RVing, you are just driving! Stop and enjoy the flowers!
M & N

Tundra TRD V8 4x4 w/Leer Shell
EU2000i * Prodigy * McKesh * Trek * Renogy * ENU

Jay_Pat
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Most convenient stores are on corners. Enter one driveway and exit out the other.
Go for the end pump.
It will take experience to size up a gas station to determine if you will fit or not. You may have to drive around the block as you size up a station.
Sometimes, I have to back out. I already recognize that when I pull in.
There are too many varibles/situations.
I realize, I may have to drop the trailer to get fuel. I haven't had to do that, yet....
My overall length is 60'.
Most important thing to remember is don't damage your rig!!!!
Pat
2010 Ford F-350 SRW
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the_bear_II
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When on the highway I look for either a truck stop or one of the large gas stations that have lots of room at the pumps

Like others have posted most of the time I will fill while unhitched from the 5th wheel either after we finish setting up camp or before we leave to head to the next stop.

One time we needed fuel and had to pull into a little town and the only station was one of the small type from the 50's. My wife direct traffic around our 5th wheel because the rear end stuck out into the street. She said most people smiled and waved at her as they went by.

MarkTwain
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Fourjs wrote:
We bought our TT in January and have taken 3 trips. All great. Being newbies, we have learned lessons every time.

So far, our trips have been short. We haven't had to stop and fill our TV with the trailer attached. Eventually, I'll be faced with that situation. Not something I'm looking forward to doing, but I know it'll happen eventually. My worst nightmare would be getting hemmed in at close quarters with no way out.

FYI, our TT is 35 ft. TV is 176" truck.

Looking for what you do and how you handle filling up. Any suggestions and wisdom is greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for your replies.

Jimmy


1. Apply for a Flying J rv Plus charge card so you can go to any Flying J or Pilot truck stop and then you don't have to worry about getting hemmed in ever again. Or, You can use any truck stop and just pay cash or use your own credit cards.
2. Have an Auxiliary fuel tank installed to replace your original fuel tank. Transfer Flow makes great tanks. I have a 60 gal. tank on my Dodge 3500.

Johno02
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If you are going that far each day, your aren't RVing, you are just driving! Stop and enjoy the flowers!
Noel and Betty Johnson (and Harry)

2005 GulfStream Ultra Supreme, 1 Old grouch, 1 wonderful wife, and two silly poodles.

Johno02
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But the tanker trucks don't have to get to the pumps.
Noel and Betty Johnson (and Harry)

2005 GulfStream Ultra Supreme, 1 Old grouch, 1 wonderful wife, and two silly poodles.

aguablanco
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4aSong wrote:
If I had a trailer of that size I would plan on filling up with gas when I have the trailers disconnected. ie. Leave it at your campsite.


That would mean he needs to find a campsite every time he needs gas. I live in AZ and travel to California frequently and I can't get there on one tank of gas. OP don't worry so much, it is not that bad filling up with the trailer in tow. You will get the hang of it with practice.
RichH
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wing_zealot
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4aSong wrote:
If I had a trailer of that size I would plan on filling up with gas when I have the trailers disconnected. ie. Leave it at your campsite.
I sometimes travel 500 - 600 miles a day. I have even went over a 1,200 miles before I unhooked and set up camp. How would you recommend I fill up when the trailer is not connected?

wing_zealot
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Pick gas stations with large pump areas and plan your way out before you even pull in. Truck stops usually have lots of room even in the gas pump area.

seaeagle2
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You might not fit in every station, but remember, a double trailer tanker truck gets in there to fill the tanks....
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4aSong
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If I had a trailer of that size I would plan on filling up with gas when I have the trailers disconnected. ie. Leave it at your campsite.
M & N

Tundra TRD V8 4x4 w/Leer Shell
EU2000i * Prodigy * McKesh * Trek * Renogy * ENU