Looking for all season travel trailer for work. Will be using it approximately once every two weeks for 1-2 consecutive nights. Gonna park it in a parking lot at work. More concerned about winter use vs summer use. Temps in Denver can get down to below freezing in the city.RequirementsMainly boondocking so generator is a mustNeeds to survive Colorado winters - snow and temps. Worried about pipes/tanks freezing.No longer than 17-25 feet range. Slide optional.Tow vehicle will be Toyota Tundra - 10k tow limit on paper but would like to keep it closer to 7-8k.Brands I'm looking atNorthwood Artic Fox/ Nash - my top choice so farLance - difficult to find one with a generatorForest River Alpha Wolf? - they advertise a "weather package" optionAny info, suggestions would be much appreciated. Budget around $40k. Thank you in advance

Econo Travel or something similar. A Denver winter will surpass anything a TT will handle for just a 1 or 2 night a week usage. Tanks will freeze, to get around that, you will have to heat a 25' long box with only 2" thick walls, minimal insulation and you will have the entire spring to look forward to "The great Poopscicle" that will eventually have to be dealt with. Seriously, a Motel room will be much easier and cheaper than trying what you asked about.

Thank you wanderingaimlesslyWhat about stuff like "heated holding tanks" or other winter stuff that they advertise? How low of temp are those good for?

The biggest issue is the 12 days in between using it. If you don’t leave the heat on you’ll have2 winterize it teice a month for the winter.

bzboy wrote:Brands I'm looking atNorthwood Artic Fox/ Nash - my top choice so farNash 17k with a generator is a nice compact model.I had one and used it a lot.Here's a video tour of it.

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wanderingaimles
Explorer
Apr 03, 2021
Econo Travel or something similar.
A Denver winter will surpass anything a TT will handle for just a 1 or 2 night a week usage.
Tanks will freeze, to get around that, you will have to heat a 25' long box with only 2" thick walls, minimal insulation and you will have the entire spring to look forward to "The great Poopscicle" that will eventually have to be dealt with.
Seriously, a Motel room will be much easier and cheaper than trying what you asked about.
Lwiddis
Explorer II
Apr 04, 2021
X2, wandering.
bzboy
Explorer
Apr 04, 2021
Thank you wanderingaimlessly

What about stuff like "heated holding tanks" or other winter stuff that they advertise? How low of temp are those good for?
Grit_dog
Navigator
Apr 04, 2021
The biggest issue is the 12 days in between using it. If you don’t leave the heat on you’ll have2 winterize it teice a month for the winter.
deltabravo
Nomad
Apr 04, 2021
bzboy wrote:
Brands I'm looking at
Northwood Artic Fox/ Nash - my top choice so far

Nash 17k with a generator is a nice compact model.

I had one and used it a lot.

Here's a video tour of it.
wanderingaimles
Explorer
Apr 04, 2021
I didn't winterize my Winnie (27') this year in Virginia. Our temps were pretty mild, we never got below 20. I kept a little 400 watt heater going constantly, which warmed the interior by 10-15 degrees warmer than outside. And set the gas furnace to 45 degrees. I still had to fill the propane 3 times. Our unit sends some furnace heat by the tanks to help keep them from freezing, hence keeping the furnace set at 45.
We used her to go to Farmville va for a week in December for a new grandchild visit. Temps were in the upper 30's low 40's and 10 degrees cooler at night. Had to refill propane every 3 days just to keep the rig in the 60's.
These things dont hold heat all that well (except in August;))
canoe_on_top
Explorer
Apr 04, 2021
Arctic Fox/Nash definitely top choices. Get the factory storm windows.As mentioned, the big problem would be either leaving the heat on all winter or re-winterizing after every trip. If you don't have shore power you're going to need significant battery capacity to get you through the night and you'll have to run the generator quite a bit during the day. At least two 6 volt GC batteries. With my previous Nash and current Arctic Fox, I've seen 5,6 below with no problem. Could, probably handle -10. As you know, it, occasionally, gets colder than that in Denver so, plan accordingly. If your trips coincide with extreme temps, 10-15 below, you might have to not use the onboard water system and use portable water containers. Not conducive to showering.
bzboy
Explorer
Apr 05, 2021
Several of you made the point about what to do with the camper when not in use and its freezing outside. Great point and something I never would have thought of. Thank you.
bzboy
Explorer
Apr 05, 2021
deltabravo

just saw your video on your nash 17k. your upgrades are fantastic
afidel
Explorer II
Apr 05, 2021
So here in NE Ohio I went through 20-30 pounds of propane a week, that was with an electric fireplace burning pretty much 24x7 at 1200-1500W, thermostat set at 40 outside of work hours, and all windows covered with Reflectix. If you needed to keep it above 40 without the electric figure closer to 50-60 pounds per week (based on BTU value), and on top of that you'd need enough battery to run the blower that much. Basically you'd be looking at ~28 gallons @~$3/gallon per 2 week use just to keep it from freezing even if you could get a big enough set of tanks and a solar system big enough to keep up with the blower load.