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Thinking of going FW...........HELP!!

QA_Boomer
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Hey, all...........I've been a long time "watcher" of this post, so finally taking the dive to chat. If you guys were a bunch of nuts I probably wouldn't want to post, so here's to your credibility!:) My new wife and I are really getting into the TCamping lifestyle, in fact we are thinking of retiring and full-timing. (Yes, we've thought a lot about this.) However, the old issue of space and storage is an issue with TC's, as you all know. We just bought a 2005 Host with a slide out, so it has lost of room inside, but storage is worse that when we had our 1992 Lance! So, we are thinking of upgrading to a FW! Please talk me out of this craziness!!! (And, no, my wife is not pushing me towards the FW.) I know it is all about how we want to spend our time and how we want to use the FW, but I love my TC!! (sigh) Any thoughts?
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samuraiowner
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since you already have the truck camper try living in it parked next to your house. try not to go in your house exept to check on it, or to do laundry.
you will find out weather or not the truck camper is big enough real fast and not be out any money.
Samuraiowner

kohldad
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Explorer III
The FW / TC debate is also about traveling style. FW is definitely a park and explore returning every day to a base camp. Yes you can do some exploring between base camps, but always have to be careful. You have to pack food up for snacks during the day and have a plan for your pit stops.

With the TC, you have the choice of moseying along each day without doubling back or setting up a base camp. Unless you have dropped off the camper, you have your food and pit stop with you where ever you go. And if the go turns out to be a dead end, just back up. This is the route we plan on going for the first couple of years after retirement before reconsidering the FW option.

Since you already have the TC and truck, you could put all of your stuff in a small storage locker for a couple of month while you travel in the TC. If you like it, get rid of the stuff or continue with the rental. If you don't, then switch over to a FW.
2015 Ram 3500 4x4 Crew Cab SRW 6.4 Hemi LB 3.73 (12.4 hand calc avg mpg after 92,000 miles with camper)
2004 Lance 815 (prev: 2004 FW 35'; 1994 TT 30'; Tents)

the_bear_II
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Also take a look at www.rv-dreams.com for more information about fulltiming. The couple on this website left great corporate jobs and decided to fulltime in an RV with no prior RV experience. They chronicle the adventure on the website and include monthly expenses since they began almost 10 years ago.

Lots of great information in his blog posts as well in the reader forum posts.

the_bear_II
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Explorer
In 1975 we bought a 1959 International 1 1/2 ton truck with a chassis mounted 10ft Cabover camper. The rig was custom built for the original owner to travel into Alaska. We used it for several years and enjoyed it. It began to fall apart around us so we upgraded to a 24ft TT.

The TT was fine for the next 10 years but then we began to take longer and longer trips...so after being stuck in really bad weather in the 24ft TT for 3 straight days we found ourselves bickering, mostly about how cramped we were and no place comfortable to sit inside for long periods of time.

After 16 years we sold the TT and moved up to our current 38ft FW. It's been heaven... plenty of room, two nice Lazy Boy recliners to lounge in, a desk area for the computer and a big kitchen area we can both work in. Large bedroom & bathroom plus a washer/dryer.

As far as I'm concerned, a Large FW or DP is the only way to fulltime. Especially if you get stuck somewhere for many days of bad weather...no more cabin fever for us.

We've been able to take it anywhere there is a hard packed dirt road without too many large holes or steep dips. We were involved in offroad racing in Southern California deserts for many years... the FW made the trips very comfortable. Some times we would have to camp away from the race course and drive the truck in for the race but we still got to enjoy and help out during the race.

QA_Boomer
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Gotta go FW shopping guys...........later!

QA_Boomer
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Yep.....we use our jeep for storage when towing as well..........including the beer thing...hah!

Reddog1
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Explorer II
In some states you can tow behind a FW, but my understanding is not all states. As I understand, in California, you are required to have a Class A which has special requirements. Personally, I would prefer not.

You held back in your first post, and did not mention the Jeep. I frequently flat tow my Samurai. It serves as a trailer when I need extra storage. You might consider that as an option with your TC. Several methods to use the Jeep for storage and still have it usable. In this photo, I have camping gear (including beer) for three days for two people.


2004.5 Ram SLT LB 3500 DRW Quad Cab 4x4
1988 Bigfoot (C11.5) TC (1900# w/standard equip. per decal), 130 watts solar, 100 AH AGM, Polar Cub A/C, EU2000i Honda

Toad: 91 Zuke

Peg_Leg
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I guess you just need a enclosed trailer to pull behind the TC. Make sure the jeep will fit inside and the rest of the space can be used for other necessities.
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QA_Boomer
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Thanks for the kind welcome, Wayne! And good advice by all! I figured I would probably trade in the jeep at the same time, but I saw a pic on another forum where the guy was towing a jeep with a FW......isn't that illegal in most states.....I mean towing behind a towable, let alone the length issue.

Reddog1
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Explorer II
QA Boomer wrote:
Hey, all...........I've been a long time "watcher" of this post, so finally taking the dive to chat. If you guys were a bunch of nuts I probably wouldn't want to post, so here's to your credibility!:)


Welcome to the Forum. We sure fooled you, or you are just as nuts as we are. :R

QA Boomer wrote:
My new wife and I are really getting into the TCamping lifestyle, in fact we are thinking of retiring and full-timing. (Yes, we've thought a lot about this.) However, the old issue of space and storage is an issue with TC's, as you all know. We just bought a 2005 Host with a slide out, so it has lost of room inside, but storage is worse that when we had our 1992 Lance! So, we are thinking of upgrading to a FW! Please talk me out of this craziness!!! (And, no, my wife is not pushing me towards the FW.) I know it is all about how we want to spend our time and how we want to use the FW, but I love my TC!! (sigh) Any thoughts?

A lot to be said for a FW, and a lot to be said for a TC. Full-timing in a TC with two people can be tough even with enough storage. It is doable.

My suggestion is to take a closer look at what you want to store. I think most of us want to store just too much stuff. How many pots and pans do you really need, how much food do you store, do you need more than two week of cloths, how many coffee cups, how many plates, and how many books do you really need to store? Each of these are small individually, but as a group require lots of storage. If you take a close look at what you are storing, and why, I bet you can almost double your storage areas.

A laundry mat every two week can do clothes, and a grocery store every two weeks can store lots of food. The type of clothes you store can also make a big difference.

Wayne


2004.5 Ram SLT LB 3500 DRW Quad Cab 4x4
1988 Bigfoot (C11.5) TC (1900# w/standard equip. per decal), 130 watts solar, 100 AH AGM, Polar Cub A/C, EU2000i Honda

Toad: 91 Zuke

korbe
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Explorer
This site has hosted many debates regarding the pros and cons of comparing 5th wheels, TT's and MH's. This one is a first for me.

The one glaring difference for me is that the TC can get to more remote areas that a 5er. That about sums it up from here.
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Old-Biscuit
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We FT'd for 7 yrs in a 34' FW.

First year out on the road (actually 6 mos.) we realized we still had too much stuff. Not that we had jammed/packed the FW, just that we really could do with a lot less than we thought we could.
All that was needed was the basics.

BUT having 'turn around' space was priceless when living on the road.
We could have done it with a smaller FW which also would have made it easier to get into more areas for boondocking.
Size does have it's limitations.
Is it time for your medication or mine?


2007 DODGE 3500 QC SRW 5.9L CTD In-Bed 'quiet gen'
2007 HitchHiker II 32.5 UKTG 2000W Xantex Inverter
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QA_Boomer
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I appreciate your quick responses.........especially the one about the space in the bed area.........that was pretty funny, Jim! To some others points, I think we could hack it FT for a few years in TC, but don't want another divorce either. We are actually looking at FWs tomorrow. The fulltiming thing is something we've been discussing for several years, so, yes, we are planning a huge yard sale come spring. We are on a plan and a budget already!

JumboJet
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I would never attempt to FT with my wife in a TC. Maybe the largest FW made and then it would be a struggle. We would spend months having a "yard sale" or "Flea Market" around our FW before we ever thought about going FT.

kerry4951
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How much stuff do you need to take along? If you have a bunch of stuff than most TCs wont work well. We down sized from a 38' motorhome to an AF 1140 with no issues. A lot of the stuff we were hauling around in the MH we never used anyway. With the 1140 its got a ton of interior storage, especially with the full wall cabover wardrobe. It also has very ample exterior storage so I have yet to be out somewhere wishing that I had an item that I did not already have with me. But I will also say that if I was going to full time in an RV, it would not be a TC.
2009 Silverado 3500 dually D/A, Supersprings, Stable Loads, Bilsteins, Hellwig Sway Bar.
2010 Arctic Fox 1140 DB, 220 watts solar, custom 4 in 1 "U" shaped dinette/couch, baseboard and Cat 3 heat, 2nd dinette TV, cabover headboard storage, 67 TC mods