Tundra with a Cummins?

And the market has gone towards mileage recently, that has left the tundra in a situation where the truck has the power, but not the payload or chassis to use it. And it doesn't have mileage that entices, it's a bit of a conundrum.
And the Tundra has been "not recommended" for at least 3 years of Consumer Reports. Recently, it has been back on the recommended list as the quality came up after 2007 launch debacle, followed by a few years of bad surveys. Followed by Toyotas cover-up of surveyed safety issues, which knocked it off the list a second time. Let's leave all the 90's notions of superior quality, and look at even the heavily biased CR reports that show that some domestic brands are within a rounding error quality-wise. And perform much better than domestics of the past.

Bottom line; Toyota needs to add some beef if they are adding a heavy diesel engine to the Tundra. And not repeat what happened in 2007.

spoon059 wrote:

ib516 wrote:
The Tundra was a great truck with a great powertrain ..... 5 years ago.

Now it is ho-hum.

Still a good truck, reliable and well built I'm sure... but they really dropped the ball just doing a "sheetmetal makeover" for this newest generation. Carryover powertrain = getting left behind by those that innovate & update.

Funny how a great powertrain is "ho-hum" with no changes to it... Its the same great powertrain that it was 5 years ago, its just that other engines are comparable or better now whereas 5 years ago it blew the doors off most other options.

The powertrain is still great. Its funny that the Ford boys loved the enemic 5.4 that was in production for years. There was nothing WRONG with it, but now that there are better options available its suddenly considered junk. That is not the case.

All true, except Ram, GM and Ford have upgraded their trucks and power trains since the Tundra 1st came out. I will agree that the Tundra power train is darn good, but it still comes in the same package. Most consumers like change, and Toyota is lagging in all departments. Doesn't make the Tundra less of a truck, it just makes it less desirable.

ib516 wrote:
The Tundra was a great truck with a great powertrain ..... 5 years ago.

Now it is ho-hum.

Still a good truck, reliable and well built I'm sure... but they really dropped the ball just doing a "sheetmetal makeover" for this newest generation. Carryover powertrain = getting left behind by those that innovate & update.

Funny how a great powertrain is "ho-hum" with no changes to it... Its the same great powertrain that it was 5 years ago, its just that other engines are comparable or better now whereas 5 years ago it blew the doors off most other options.

The powertrain is still great. Its funny that the Ford boys loved the enemic 5.4 that was in production for years. There was nothing WRONG with it, but now that there are better options available its suddenly considered junk. That is not the case.

Water-Bug wrote:
The space shuttle is HISTORY. Refering to it now would make the Tundra exactly that.

Looking at the sales numbers. It pretty much is history, and In truth. I could pull the Shuttle with a Cub Cadet

The space shuttle is HISTORY. Refering to it now would make the Tundra exactly that.

vr200275 wrote:
Looks like Toyota may be considering a diesel option also.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/02/toyota-tundra-cummins-diesel-engine/

For the man who needs to tow 2 space shuttles?? :)
Joking of course, just thought it was odd a Tundra thread made it 2 pages without the space shuttle reference.

The Tundra was a great truck with a great powertrain ..... 5 years ago.

Now it is ho-hum.

Still a good truck, reliable and well built I'm sure... but they really dropped the ball just doing a "sheetmetal makeover" for this newest generation. Carryover powertrain = getting left behind by those that innovate & update.

pronstar wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

You have to ask yourself what the averarage American wants to hear better:

"I have a Hino in my truck." :R

OR

"I have a Cummins in my truck." :)

Chevy guys don't seem to have a problem with an Isuzu engine, they just call it a Duramax :B
I kid...I kid...

If I had a dime for every time someone said "If that their Chevy had a Cummins in front of that their Allison that their would be a great truck."

Same way with the Ford truck and a Cummins and Allie.

Maybe Yoda will put an Allie in back of the Cummins and put the other 3 out of business! :B

That is encouraging news. I test drove a Tundra, liked it. For me, the seat was more comfortable than any other half ton I have driven, and I love Toyota reliability.

However, before I would consider one, they need some upgrades in addition to engine: more payload, larger fuel tank, and so on.

The success of Ford's Ecoboost in the F150 seems to have unleashed a coming flood of new engine options in the competition's half ton pickups.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Home Skillet wrote:
Why not use the HINO diesel?

You have to ask yourself what the averarage American wants to hear better:

"I have a Hino in my truck." :R

OR

"I have a Cummins in my truck." :)

Well, The GM boys don't mind driving an Isuzu.

Durn , I was beat to it.