Hi all, new guy here, hope I am not posting something in the inappropriate area.I have had campers before but never anything other than that. I am recently retired and want to get into RV'ing for both local excursions as well as snowbirding to a minor degree. My desire is to stay in the 22-24' travel trailer size, pulling with a Tundra, however I also want to be able to take my touring motorcycle with me (850 lbs).So far I see pretty much my only option as a toy hauler however I am suspect that the interior configuration will provide the level of comfort that a 22-24 w/slide non-toy hauler would ... and that too is important to me. I have seen lifts for the rear of motorhomes but I'm not wanting to go that big/sophisticated.My question is what alternatives have you all tried or have had luck with? ... or am I pretty much going to have to go the toy hauler route? Any lifts or innovative ideas that I haven't seen yet online?Thanks for the help.

No way you can hang that heavy of a bike on the back of a 22-24 foot trailer, you need 12 to 15 percent tongue weight.I don't think a motorcycle in back of truck would work either to much weight with trailer tongue weight. Would have to have trucks ratings and trailer tongue weight ratings to know for sure.

You will likely be over the Tundra payload, with that large motorcycle, plus hitch, and tongue wt. You may want to sell/trade Tundra, for a HD truck, that could haul the bike, and handle the trailer.I'm sure some would just bag the Tundra, load the bike and go. While this may work, overloading a tow vehicle is not the best option.Hope you get it figured out, and have an enjoyable retirement. Jerry

I have a 20ft (KZ) toy hauler and take a 550lb bike; Once the bike is out, the whole "garage" become the living room. Lots of open space with no dinnette or other furniture to clog up.Not sure what your level of comfort is, but I have no issues. I have a queen size bed, full fridge, 2 burner stove, sofa..... The only quibble is that the bathroomis small.I'm in a similar position to you - retired and I hit the road whenever I like for as long as I like.

Hmmm...well, if you don't want a toy hauler, I would ditch the Tundra and go with a Ford F250 or a Chevy 2500HD (longbed models). Both are good trucks and can haul payloads over 1500 lb + a trailer your size without a problem. But that's just me.:B

Forgot to add I'm retired as well. I use a F-250 pulling a 22 foot Toy Hauler all over the country. Ironically enough I load the BMW motorcycle in the back of the truck so the Collies and I have more room for overnights (except when using the Excursion). What I like about my TH is the open space when empty, Large water tank, built in generator, built in fuel tank with pump for bike ( I keep non-ethanol gas for the bike and generator), large carrying capacity. Hope you find a combination that will work for you.

Wanting to take my motorcycle ... travel trailer ...

PenMan
Explorer
Sep 22, 2018
An 8 ft. bed is a standard. 6 1/2' is a short bed.
ktmrfs
Explorer II
Sep 22, 2018
George3037 wrote:
wanderingbob wrote:
I thought a "standard " bed was a 8 footer . Did that change ?

I don't know when it changed but the last 3 trucks I've owned had a standard bed which is about 6 1/2'. The long bed is an 8'er.

yes confusing to say the least. In days of old it was "long bed" or "short bed", and standard bed meant "long bed" But at least with GM by 2004 "std bed" meant "short bed"
George3037
Explorer
Sep 21, 2018
wanderingbob wrote:
I thought a "standard " bed was a 8 footer . Did that change ?

I don't know when it changed but the last 3 trucks I've owned had a standard bed which is about 6 1/2'. The long bed is an 8'er.
camperdave
Explorer
Sep 21, 2018
rose090999 wrote:
Just go get a Dual Sport 400 or 650 that weighs less than 400 lb's and put it in the bed of you truck. Unless you're going to Bike Week a dual sport bike would be much more enjoyable to cruise around the back fire roads, trails, or local town when camping anyway.

lol, that's like telling a 40 foot DP owner that they should just go buy a Roadtrek because you think it would work better for them.
wanderingbob
Explorer II
Sep 21, 2018
I thought a "standard " bed was a 8 footer . Did that change ?
rose090999
Explorer
Sep 21, 2018
Just go get a Dual Sport 400 or 650 that weighs less than 400 lb's and put it in the bed of you truck. Unless you're going to Bike Week a dual sport bike would be much more enjoyable to cruise around the back fire roads, trails, or local town when camping anyway.
falconbrother
Explorer II
Sep 21, 2018
At MB Bike Weeks I pulled my bike on a trailer behind my motorhome. I see people carrying their bikes on 1/2 ton trucks and towing travel trailers. The guy camped next to me at the last one I RV'ed to was hauling his Road Glide in the back of a Dodge 1/2 ton and towing a trailer that I would put at about 27 feet. I would never do that. It's way too much weight on a 1/2 ton. I do think it would work on a 1 ton chassis though, like dually. Now I pull a trailer with a Suburban so, I ride to bike rallies and get a hotel room.
4x4ord
Explorer III
Sep 21, 2018
I haul an 800 lb motorcycle on a homemade lift behind my fiver. it works ok with 400 lbs of gravel placed in the bedroom closet for counter weight but I won't be fully satisfied until I install a third axle under the fiver. You also have to find a fiver with a very strong frame if you don't want to have issues. Here's a pic of mine:

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ktmrfs
Explorer II
Sep 03, 2018
we go camping & riding quite a bit. Here is my $.02 experience.

1) you aren't going to be able to put the bike on the back of a TT, or with that heavy a bike on the back of a 5'r either. a 300lb bike on the back of a 5'er possibly but not 800lbs
2) A long bed is a BIG advantage over a std box. I have a 3/4 ton std bed and need to turn my KTM400 sideways in the bed.
3) with that weight and trailer tongue weight I suspect you are definitely into 3/4 or 1 ton territory.
4) In a 4x4 the bed I would NOT ever try getting a sport bike in the back. Even getting my KTM in the bed is usually a 2 person job for safety.
5) In my case I have 1400lb tongue weight and with bike in the bed and riding gear I am right at my denali 3/4ton GVW.

So...... take a look at some of the outback toyhaulers with the side entry ramp. they may fit your need nicely, still give reasonable inside room and with the side entry don't take as much space out of the living area.
Ivylog
Explorer III
Sep 03, 2018
Not sure about double towing in BC or any of Canada and usually the first hitch has to be a 5er/fifth wheel.