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Which truck would be better for my TT

Joseph4200
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I have a keystone outback 312BH its 35.5 feet long.

Here are the specs

Shipping weight = 7304
Carrying capacity = 1696

Im trying to decide the best truck to pull this with. Im thinking either the Tundra "I love Toyota" or the Ford F150. Here are some comparisons between the two trucks.

Been researching and this is what I came up with.


F150 vs Tundra

Towing capacity
F150 = 11,800
Tundra = 10,200
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GCWR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_combined_weight_rating

F150 = 17000
Tundra = 16000
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GVWR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_vehicle_weight_rating

F150 = 7000
Tundra = 7000
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GAWR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_axle_weight_rating

F150
Front = 3525
Rear = 3800

Tundra
Front = 3900
Rear = 4150
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Load Capacity "from sticker inside driver door"

F150 = 1810
Tundra = 1202
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Horse Power/ Torque
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/information/horsepower-versus-torque.htm

F150
HP = 365 @ 5000 rpm
Torque = 420 @ 2500 rpm

Tundra
HP = 381 @ 5600 rpm
Torque = 401 @ 3600 rpm
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Gas milage "under normal driving"
F150
City = 16
Highway = 22
Average = 18

Tundra
City = 13
Highway = 18
Average = 15

What would you guys suggest?
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Hannibal
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Lantley wrote:
Hannibal wrote:
I've owned six diesels. Nothing special about them. Once the novelty wears off, it's just a noisy, stinky engine that can't rev. There are countless gas engines with well over 200k miles that are still running strong. Just the same, I'm glad your 15 year old truck makes you happy. :B

Your description does not describe a modern day diesel truck however it does describe the diesels of yesteryear.


Yes they were much simpler and cheaper then.:B
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Lantley
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Hannibal wrote:
I've owned six diesels. Nothing special about them. Once the novelty wears off, it's just a noisy, stinky engine that can't rev. There are countless gas engines with well over 200k miles that are still running strong. Just the same, I'm glad your 15 year old truck makes you happy. :B

Your description does not describe a modern day diesel truck however it does describe the diesels of yesteryear.
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dodge_guy
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A bit late to the party but, yes a 3/4 ton minimum. And that trailer will be maxed out on its GVWR loaded for a trip, unless you travel with very minimal stuff. Which isn't why people buy an RV!

My trailer loaded for a weekend weighs 9200lbs! It's dry weight is 7100lbs with a 4000lb CCC. Its GVWR is 11,200lbs. I pack with enough stuff to camp/vacation comfortably!

OP neither of the trucks you mention will be good, except maybe a properly optioned F150!
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Hannibal
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I've owned six diesels. Nothing special about them. Once the novelty wears off, it's just a noisy, stinky engine that can't rev. There are countless gas engines with well over 200k miles that are still running strong. Just the same, I'm glad your 15 year old truck makes you happy. :B
2020 F250 STX CC SB 7.3L 10spd 3.55 4x4
2010 F250 XLT CC SB 5.4L 5spdTS 3.73
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2017 Jayco 28RLS TT 32.5'

ppine
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I don't know why people seem to resist buying a larger truck for towing say over 5,000 pounds. They also resist buying a diesel.

I have one ton Ford with the last of the 7.3 liter diesels. It is the best daily driver I have ever had out of more than 30 vehicles. It is actually going up in value and is 15 years old. It is worth half of what I paid for it. With 160 k miles it is just getting broken in. A gas truck would be on the last leg of its life and worth very little in comparison.

Wanderlost
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I drive a 2015 F-150 Lariat double cab short bed, Ecoboot engine with max tow package. I can tow our Rockwood 2906ws, but it's not a comfortable pairing.

We tow with WLToo's daily ride: a 2014 F-350 King Ranch double cab long bed, diesel. Pulls Steinholz like he's not even back there. He also gets a respectable mpg when pulling, and really nice mpg when running unencumbered. I like the F-350 so much that if/when WLToo's Parkinson's gets really bad, we'll keep the F-350 over my F-150, nice as it is.

We went with a used F-350 diesel because the new F250s were more expensive. Also, we went with diesel because it's so much easier to maneuver truck and trailer through the truck diesel fuel points than to try and maneuver around the gas pumps, where cars are so quick to cut you off and the pump placements are very difficult to maneuver trailers through.

So I'll join the crowds saying "not an F-150 or a Tundra," and "get a diesel." Whether it's a 250/2500 or a used 350/3500 series will depend on your pocketbook comfort.
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ppine
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I agree with DinTulsa.
It is supposed to be fun. Straining a truck to its limits is never fun. It is nervewracking, and often expensive.

arkieguide
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I have pulled and carried both 35 foot trailers and 35 5th wheels,with slides, i like the f 150 but all ways got a 3/4 ton for that size trailer.Even then at times I could have used a 1 ton dually, for stability. In the old days we pulled 35 foot trailers with 6 cyc. chevy's and v/8 flathead fords, ---- BUT - the weigh was not even close to today's travel trailers.I use my 1/2 ton for travel trailers up to 28 foot and 22 foot 5th wheels.Over that get a bigger truck.

Dennis_Smith
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We have a F250 and pull a 22 foot trailer. I have no towing issues. Big truck little trailer, works perfect. Bought truck used so same price as a 150. Gas 5.7 10 MPG

Coffee_Grinder
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I pull 7000 lbs with my Tundra with no issues, however I bucked a 13 mph wind and got 6.5mph. I have been through the Rockies as well. Having said all that a 3/4 will make towing easier but I wouldn't change trucks unless I went to a heavier tt

wrenchbender
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A 2500 oil burner for that weight

ppine
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Good advice. Once you get in the mountains you will be asking a lot of either of those two trucks. It will hard on them, especially the transmissions.

It is easy in the showroom or RV show to get sold on a big trailer. Then the saleman says "you won't have any problems." Actually you will.

If you tow in the flatlands it might be different.

I have a friend that bought a new 30 foot trailer "to save money on motels." He pulled it with a Jeep Cherokee and burned up the transmission. Then he went out on bought a new pick-up with a Banks set-up. So much for saving money.

Crabbypatty
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We just bought a F250 Crew Cab 4x4 6.2liter to pull our Sunnybrook 298 Bunkhouse. You want as much truck in front of the trailer that you can afford. Though I wanted a diesel there wasn't one available and with the 6 speed it handles the hills. Already having to emergency stop the on board brake controller was better than the Prodigy I had in the suburban. We are very happy with this set up and our TT is over 7,000lbs

I wouldn'tt pull your trailer with anything less than a 3/4 ton regardless the make. Otherwise you will feel the strain and it will cost you more later in repairs.
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rbpru
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I have found an F-150 limits out with about 6000 lbs. scale weight. That is about 5000 lbs. dry weight.

The issue is max cargo capacity which limits your tongue weight who and what you hall.
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