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Re: TT Toy Hauler Weights
camp-n-family wrote: There are usually 2 yellow stickers these days, one should show the uvw as it left the factory. If you can't find it, use the tire loading sticker. Subtract the cargo rating from the gvwr and you have its empty weight. It can be significantly different from the brochure weight. The second yellow sticker was not on the trailer. I did use the tire loading sticker. Cargo Capacity not to exceed 3002 lbs. GVWR is 11,900 lbs. A little math and 8,900 lbs comes up. Not close to the 7400 lbs UVW of the brochure. 1500 lbs seems like a lot to fudge with. And if the dealer will not weigh the trailer to verify weight, they pretty much lost a sale. Same dealer also is having an issue with the new Rage'n brand made by Pacific Coach Works. Seems PCW has had a good name in the industry. The issue pertains to fraudulent weights. How would the dealer know of these weight issues if they never weigh trailers themselves? Seems fishy, and I don't fish.333Views0likes0CommentsTT Toy Hauler Weights
We've been looking for a TT toy hauler for a while. After looking at a number of brands and floor plans, we are really liking the Evergreen Amped and Reactor lines. The Amped are a little more upscale and the Reactor are more traditional, but very nice. We looked at several yesterday and I specifically look for the weight stickers. The only ones I found were the yellow labels with the maximum capacity and the GVW. Here is the problem. The Evergreen brochure states a UVW of 7400 lbs on the Amped 27FS with a GVW of 11900. On the sticker, it had a max cargo capacity of 3000 lbs, when doing some subtraction, means the trailer would have a weight of 8900 lbs! The salesman said that you can take approx 1500 lbs off due to tongue weight! Ha, the trailer still weighs what it does, either on the hitch or the front jack. Anyway, I asked if we could have the trailer weighed before signing any paperwork or writing a check. He said they would not do that as it would put them under liability for the reported weight. I didn't understand that, why would weighing a trailer relieve the manufacturer of liability and place it on the selling dealer. I think he didn't want to see the number. Many other brands have labels that show an actual weighed number upon build completion, give or take a little bit. A couple hundred pounds is understandable. What are your thoughts on the weight situation we are seeing? Any possible explanations for the weight difference? The trailer did not have a huge amount of options on it, only a small slide. The Reactor trailers showed a similar issue between cargo capacity and GVW. Even if propane was filled and full of gas in the gen tank, only looking at less than 500 lbs. Should we find another dealer that will be willing to show us actual weights? Most brands show axle weights, hitch weights and cargo capacity. Add axle to hitch and you get dry weight, add cargo capacity and you get GVWR. Enlighten me if I am missing somethings. Sorry for being so wordy, trying to get all of the info out there. Thanks!2KViews0likes8CommentsRe: Need Help With Brand Decision
Well, we happened on an Evergreen Amped 27FS. Hadn't seen them before. We had a really good look at it. Very nice. Frame is what they call a Z-frame. Front bedroom has a step up too it, and to my surprise, I could stand up without bending over, and I am 6'1". Huge amount of head room, only thing, in bathroom, I can't even reach the vent to open it. Guess a remote fan-tastic fan would be installed. Lots of storage due to stepped frame. Lots of cabinets inside. Seem to run a little more that comparable trailers, not as proud as the Lance 2612, but more $$$ none the less. Anyone have more insight on the Evergreen product??? They also make the Reactor line in a standard style frame configuration.586Views0likes0CommentsWD Hitch w/Sway Control
Looking at a toyhauler in the 25-27 foot range. Most have an UVW of 7000-7500 lbs with a GVW of 10k lbs. Towing with a 97 Ford F350 diesel, with only 62k miles on it. Transmission upgrades as well as some performance upgrades. I have read a lot on the WD hitches. Equal-i-zer and Reese Straight Line with DC sway control seem to be talked about a lot. Have read a bunch on the Blue Ox Sway Pro hitch with a lot of positives. For the length and weight of the trailer we are looking at, which hitch would be the best for us? I know a very subjective question, just looking for reasons as well as brands. Thanks in advance.1.4KViews0likes7CommentsNeed Help With Brand Decision
Been looking for a TT toyhauler. All have been between 25-28 feet. Here are the brands: Forest River - Shockwave and Sandstorm Eclipse - Attitude and Stellar Pacific Coach Works - Sandsport, Powerlite and Rage'n All have similar floorplans, weights and specs. I am wondering which of these brands have the "better" reputation for a quality build. I understand they are all fairly similar in construction. I am preferring the glass sided trailer. Would this be a good decision or would the aluminum sided be a better way to go? Looking for any and all opinions with reasons. Pacific Coach Works appears to be the smallest company of the ones mentioned, any positive to this? I have also looked at the Genesis Supreme, looks like a nice trailer and have read good things about this small builder. Thoughts? Thanks for the time in helping me out.5.5KViews0likes15Comments
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