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Originally I needed one with at least a 12.5' garage for my RZR 4 seater but didn't want to go over 40' and tandem axels to keep the weight down to pull with our 2011 F250 6.7 And I really wish we would have bought a GD. I love our Jayco but would have loved a GD a little more.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"400","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:2271140":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2271140","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":2271140},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-05-25T05:10:32.000-07:00","solved":false},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2271142":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Garage storage/organization for travel","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2271140"},"id":"message:2271142","revisionNum":1,"uid":2271142,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":243},"postTime":"2016-05-19T08:18:31.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-19T08:18:31.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"I was hoping someone had done this so I could pick their brain :) did you just screw to the wall or did you find the studs to support the track? I don't know what is behind the walls and even for the TV mount that had a sticker to show where to mount it in the garage, it didn't feel all that solid to run the screws in.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"320","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumTopicMessage:message:2271140":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"Garage storage/organization for travel","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2271140"},"id":"message:2271140","revisionNum":1,"uid":2271140,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2220},"postTime":"2016-05-18T16:39:47.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-18T16:39:47.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"I'm curious how people utilize packing in their garage when they go on trips. We obviously have a lot of space back there but I'd like to see ideas of how people pack to keep things from moving/shifting around during travel. I was thinking of installing tracks on the walls to be able to wrap straps around anything we have back there to hold it from moving around. This is for odd size stuff like coleman stoves, bicycles and anything else that isn't in a box or crate that you just put put in the corner. On buggy trips I have my RZR 900 4 back there so there isn't a lot of room for anything else and I throw things in the RZR. On family trips we have a golf cart so we have a lot of extra space to pack things back there for the trip.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"748","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":5,"readOnly":false,"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fF9OVl98MQ","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Toy Haulers","text":"Toy Haulers","time":"2006-02-10T06:04:12.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:2269188":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2269188","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":2269188},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-05-19T05:26:29.000-07:00","solved":false},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2269206":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Fueling station/Generator Gas Tanks/Filling Question","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2269188"},"id":"message:2269206","revisionNum":1,"uid":2269206,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":820},"postTime":"2016-05-18T10:27:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-18T10:27:27.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" nayther wrote: MMayleben wrote: So I took the screws out of the fill neck and pulled it off of the hose. At the end of the metal neck was a 3 prong plastic piece with a green ball that could move up and down the fill neck about 2 inches. There was no spring. So the problem of the design is if you are pumping gas, it;s suppose to push the ball down, opening up the hole. However it doesn't unblock enough area to be able to pump very fast. So I pulled the ball out all together. I'm going to look into another option to put in the line to close it off if the trailer were to turn over because I get the safety feature of it. Personally I don't think I'd worry too much about the safety feature. If the trailer is on its side you've got a lot more to worry about than the gas draining out. Besides do cars have such a check valve? Isn't that what the gas cap is for? That's a good point and it would probably leak out the vent line anyways.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"955","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2269203":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Fueling station/Generator Gas Tanks/Filling Question","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2269188"},"id":"message:2269203","revisionNum":1,"uid":2269203,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":822},"postTime":"2016-05-18T07:56:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-18T07:56:13.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"So I took the screws out of the fill neck and pulled it off of the hose. At the end of the metal neck was a 3 prong plastic piece with a green ball that could move up and down the fill neck about 2 inches. There was no spring. So the problem of the design is if you are pumping gas, it;s suppose to push the ball down, opening up the hole. However it doesn't unblock enough area to be able to pump very fast. So I pulled the ball out all together. I'm going to look into another option to put in the line to close it off if the trailer were to turn over because I get the safety feature of it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"596","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2269198":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Fueling station/Generator Gas Tanks/Filling Question","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2269188"},"id":"message:2269198","revisionNum":1,"uid":2269198,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":821},"postTime":"2016-05-11T08:27:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-11T08:27:37.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"I just talked to Jayco - they said the point of that green ball is to keep people from siphoning your tank and a safety feature for sloshing and what not. Which that's great but it makes filling the tank up at the gas station a huge pain because you have to pump super slow. The customer service guy I spoke with wasn't sure how easy it could be removed, I asked if it was part of the neck or just in the line. I guess I'll pull the black hose that connects the neck to the tank and see how easy it is.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"506","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2269196":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Fueling station/Generator Gas Tanks/Filling Question","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2269188"},"id":"message:2269196","revisionNum":1,"uid":2269196,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":817},"postTime":"2016-05-11T07:01:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-11T07:01:23.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" allcool wrote: drmopar wrote: I think the balls are a \"ROLL OVER\" valve to shut fuel off on vehicle roll over. Hope this helps. Hmmm,interesting,Is this some new regulation..? I've taken apart many fuel cells/tanks, fill tubes, and never seen this on any modern fuel tank. Have seen anti-siphon valves in tank fill tube/cap assembly. Modern tank caps are not vented so can't understand why a roll over shut off valve in fill tube would be useful..? Its a 2016, and still under warranty ? I'd bring it back. If not and you want to fix it yourself... Have seen debris from installation floating around in new tanks. Cutouts that were not cleaned out after holes were cut, chunks of tubing, hose, etc... Have also seen many fill tubes kinked so as to cause very slow fill ups. Also have seen vent lines kinked. Some California compliant tanks have evaporative emission systems in their vent lines. If it were mine, and warranty can't take care of the problem, I'd drop the tanks and clean them out, and remove any obstructions. Can't see how little green balls in your fuel tanks could help you out at all. Can tell you with certainty, my tanks have no little green balls in the fill pipe. My tanks fill up fast, just like a car fuel tank. jmo I'm going to call the manufacturer and dealership today to get clarification on this but it's not a random green ball that got stuck in the fill neck. This is in both of them and apparently designed to be there, I'm just not sure the exact reason. What I do know is that it makes filling difficult because you have to pump super slow and I can't stick a hose down in to the tank to drain them. The more I think about just using Sta-bil, which would work to solve one of my concerns, the other reason for draining is because it's extra weight to carry around that I don't need when I tow. 90% of the time I won't use the generator so there's no need to have fuel in the tank. The times I use the other tank for fueling of my RZR, I can just pump out when I get home and not have it in the tank on trips I don't need to carry gas if it's not a riding trip. I'll post what Jayco says about it in case anyone in the future has the same curiosity as me :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"2227","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2269193":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Fueling station/Generator Gas Tanks/Filling Question","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2269188"},"id":"message:2269193","revisionNum":1,"uid":2269193,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":201},"postTime":"2016-05-10T10:41:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-10T10:41:58.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" momentum rv wrote: MMayleben wrote: Thanks for the feedback! The little bit that I've been able to find, that ball is spring loaded (I think). It's hard to tell in that picture but it looks like a green ball. It does keep me from putting the vacuum hose into the tank to drain the tank, so that's the problem that caused me to notice all this. Also it makes for super slow fill ups. Should I just not be concerned about gas staying in the tank for a few months or more? I was just worried about it going bad and gumming things up or causing build up. Put Sta-bil in it and don't worry about it. Has worked for me the last 6 years. Awesome, I'm glad I asked you guys :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"691","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2269191":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","subject":"Re: Fueling station/Generator Gas Tanks/Filling Question","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2269188"},"id":"message:2269191","revisionNum":1,"uid":2269191,"depth":1,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:336439"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":110},"postTime":"2016-05-10T10:01:16.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-10T10:01:16.000-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":"Thanks for the feedback! The little bit that I've been able to find, that ball is spring loaded (I think). It's hard to tell in that picture but it looks like a green ball. It does keep me from putting the vacuum hose into the tank to drain the tank, so that's the problem that caused me to notice all this. Also it makes for super slow fill ups. Should I just not be concerned about gas staying in the tank for a few months or more? 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