All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Lat LongThis has been a fun thread to watch and lots of interesting facts about GPS systems and how they work. But none of that is really relavent to my original post/question. Which is in a nut shell. The lat long for a RV Park is listed as: ( for instance ) 34.3578 -112.6532. And when I enter that information into say GE it plots a point on the map that is not a RV Park. After a little searching, usually by entering the name, city State of said RV park I find that it is in fact at: ( again for example ) 34.5722 -112.6355 So what is going on is the information is incorrect. I was mostly wondering what the source was for these numbers. I find this is the case ( as an estimate ) about 25% of the time. Thus my 25% number. That's all. Thanks all for the very intertaining and informative discussion.Re: Lat Long westernrvparkowner wrote: RV App Developer wrote: 2gypsies wrote: From another post by the OP, he is creating an app from the Good Sam Directory. Legal? All I am using from the Directory is information that is available from all over the internet. I bought the Goodsam directory in an effort to get the most accurate, complete information available. So yes what I am doing is legal. It sure sounds like you are using vast amounts of data from the Good Sam Guidebook. You are using it for your co-ordinates. In another post you were using it to verify restrooms and showers. Copyright law is pretty clear that simply re-arranging information from a singular, or even multiple, sources is illegal. You cannot, for example, write a book about a Great White Shark you call Valdormountain, terrorizing a small resort town and have the town saved by a young warlock named Harrison Pottery and a boat captain named Quad. Peter Benchley and J.K. Rowling would have issues. If the Television show "The Profit" is any reflection on Good Sam's CEO, Marcus Lemonis, business philosophy, you can be assured he will vigorously defend the Guidebook's copyrights. And I am reasonably sure he has pockets deep enough to do so rather effectively. Heck, CNBC might even think it would make for good television and provide legal and financial support in exchange for watching Good Sam attempt to crush a copyright infringer. None of the information I am using is copyrighted in fact it is all public information. Information that is also availabe from other sources such as the RV park's own web site. Just pick any RV park in the Goodsam directory and google the name to see what I mean. Or Just pick a town and google RV park near that town. I know this because I am using those public sources of information as well. The Goodsam directory is only one tool in my tool chest. You mention restrooms & showers, I have to look elsewhere for that data because it's not in the directory. GPS data is not accurate so I have to look elsewhere for that data. Just to name a few. My database will be more complete & more accurate than any single source I am using. I am providing free advertising for Goodsam and the RV parks in question. My app is just one of many ways a potential customer can find a goodsam or any other RV park including other smart phone apps. Most businesses are grateful for every potential customer that gets information about their business as long as it's accurate. But just to be sure I contacted Goodsam & Woodalls well in advance to see if they had any objections they did not, their only request was that I insure the information I provide be accurate & up to date. Which is why all information is double checked and verified using multipule public sources of information. Nice try but no cigar.......:)Re: Lat Long 2gypsies wrote: From another post by the OP, he is creating an app from the Good Sam Directory. Legal? All I am using from the Directory is information that is available from all over the internet. I bought the Goodsam directory in an effort to get the most accurate, complete information available. So yes what I am doing is legal.Re: Lat LongOkay let's make this complex subject a lot more simple. My app, via the iPhone's GPS/Maps system can show places nearby. That is done by providing it, from my database, with DD coordinates. I have been getting those from many sources with varying degrees of accuracy. So what I am actually doing is double-checking the location with Google Maps and correcting my database, which I own, so that my app will be very close to 99% accurate, accounting for my own input errors. I am aware that GPS systems are inaccurate that's because they rely on Geolocation which is it's self inaccurate. I have tried to send updates to Goodsam but their feedback e mail is broken. So my efforts are centered around making my app and it's database as complete and accurate as humanly possible. Actually I did did get an answer to my question, in theory, that the coordinates in the book were provided by users over the years and not verified by the publishers of the guide. Thanks all for your feedback.Re: Lat LongFirst I am fixing them. Second I posted in beginning because I assumed this was a question that would be asked by someone not familiar with that book. Third what I am calling a 25% error is the number of drop pins that do not fall any where in or at the park it's self. My question stems from the concern if the GPS locations are not verified what other information is also incorrect in the guide.Lat LongI notice the big Goodsam book has lat & long coordinates for each RV park. In checking those with GPS systems that accept lat / long input that about 25% are incorrect. Where do these come from and why are they not all the correct location?Lat LongThis topic has been moved to another forum. You can read it here: 28398872Reading the Goodsam bookI am using the big Goodsam book to input data into the database for my app. I want this data to be as complete & accurate as possible. My question has to do with showers & restrooms at Goodsam rated RV parks. Almost all have a rating for "Showers & Restrooms" but none of the listings say the park has restrooms and only a couple mention showers. How do I know if a particular park has showers or restrooms or not? Thanks for your help......
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