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Now we are trying to choose the right hitch for the combination.. We are looking into a Curt 20k lbs hitch, but want to be sure this will be sufficient enough for what we are towing. I'm not sure how much additional weight is considered a safety margin, but we were originally looking at a 24k Curt.
If we go with the 20k, will we regret it? Thanks.","body@stringLength":"482","rawBody":"Hey guys, my wife and I just bought our new 2017 Ram 3500 Dually diesel to tow our 2017 Grand Design Solitude 375 RES-R. Now we are trying to choose the right hitch for the combination.. We are looking into a Curt 20k lbs hitch, but want to be sure this will be sufficient enough for what we are towing. I'm not sure how much additional weight is considered a safety margin, but we were originally looking at a 24k Curt.
\"Spherical axial bearing allows unimpeded head movement\"
The true secret, however, to the Q20’s genius is the unique pivoting system of the hitch head. Rather than using a pair of axle rods to allow the head to tilt forward and backward and side to side, the Q20 uses a spherical axial bearing. This ball-like axle, positioned within the head, allows it to move in every direction necessary while towing. Not only does this create a smoother ride for both trailer and pickup, but it also makes the hitch much quieter. The spherical axial bearing, together with its strategically placed rubber stoppers, reduces chucking and popping noises during travel.
\"Spherical axial bearing allows unimpeded head movement\"
The true secret, however, to the Q20’s genius is the unique pivoting system of the hitch head. Rather than using a pair of axle rods to allow the head to tilt forward and backward and side to side, the Q20 uses a spherical axial bearing. This ball-like axle, positioned within the head, allows it to move in every direction necessary while towing. Not only does this create a smoother ride for both trailer and pickup, but it also makes the hitch much quieter. The spherical axial bearing, together with its strategically placed rubber stoppers, reduces chucking and popping noises during travel.
Curt has the head pivot 360 degrees verses the B&W which moves front to back and side to side.
What...please explain that LOL
Easy to explain.
From the B&W webpage: Fully articulating head allows front to back and side to side pivoting.
From Curt: The defining component of this 25K 5th wheel hitch is its unique pivoting mechanism, a spherical axial bearing. This highly sophisticated technology offers free movement to allow the Q25 5th wheel head to tilt in virtually any direction.
So the Curt head allows the hitch plate to move in basically 360 degrees and not restrict it to just front to back and side to side like the B&W.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-06T18:27:15.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-06T18:27:15.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":414},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2764885/message:2764906","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"806","rawBody":"
Learjet wrote:
Travlingman wrote:
Curt has the head pivot 360 degrees verses the B&W which moves front to back and side to side.
What...please explain that LOL
Easy to explain.
From the B&W webpage: Fully articulating head allows front to back and side to side pivoting.
From Curt: The defining component of this 25K 5th wheel hitch is its unique pivoting mechanism, a spherical axial bearing. This highly sophisticated technology offers free movement to allow the Q25 5th wheel head to tilt in virtually any direction.
So the Curt head allows the hitch plate to move in basically 360 degrees and not restrict it to just front to back and side to side like the 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Travlingman wrote:
Curt has the head pivot 360 degrees verses the B&W which moves front to back and side to side.
What...please explain that LOL","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"159","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-06T17:21:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-06T17:21:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":414},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2764885/message:2764904","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"202","rawBody":"
Travlingman wrote:
Curt has the head pivot 360 degrees verses the B&W which moves front to back and side to side.
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
stro1965 wrote: I use a Curt 20K and am very happy with it. There IS life beyond B&W.
You have owned/used a B&W?
I have. Had a B&W and now a Curt Q25. Curt has the head pivot 360 degrees verses the B&W which moves front to back and side to side. Curt head attaches directly to the base and not a piece of c-channel. Curt is also SAE certified.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"215","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-06T11:09:59.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-06T11:09:59.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":462},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2764885/message:2764903","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"461","rawBody":"
Cummins12V98 wrote:
stro1965 wrote: I use a Curt 20K and am very happy with it. There IS life beyond B&W.
You have owned/used a B&W?
I have. Had a B&W and now a Curt Q25. Curt has the head pivot 360 degrees verses the B&W which moves front to back and side to side. Curt head attaches directly to the base and not a piece of c-channel. Curt is also SAE certified.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2764903_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:379469":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:379469","uid":379469,"login":"laknox","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-01-06T20:31:38.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:379469"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2764902":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2764902","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2764902":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:379469"},"id":"message:2764902","revisionNum":1,"uid":2764902,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2764885"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2764885"},"subject":"Re: 5th Wheel Hitch Weight","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2764902"},"body":"Another vote for B&W!
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stro1965 wrote: I use a Curt 20K and am very happy with it. There IS life beyond B&W.
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