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- termite farts.
Major contribution to greenhouse gas which in turn heats the ozone causing smog stagnation.
Kill some termites instead of the OHV's. Sloop Smitten wrote:
The best thing about living in California is listening to people gripe about how unbearable a place it is to live and how they can't wait to leave. Unfortunately the state must be full of people without any initiative because no one ever does and more stream in every day. Most of what people complain about are the very things in place to make it a place worthy to live. Doesn't make all of the rules right but it beats the alternative of no environmental regulations at all in the most populous state in the union. Check the recent news reoprt about the air quality in China. Reminds me of the Los Angeles area back int he 60's. Seven of the ten counties with the worst air pollution in the United States are in California. American Lugn Association "State of the Air" Puts a whole new meaning to the phrase "Suck it up".
LOl is all i got for this oneSloop Smitten wrote:
The best thing about living in California is listening to people gripe about how unbearable a place it is to live and how they can't wait to leave. Unfortunately the state must be full of people without any initiative because no one ever does and more stream in every day.
While I agree that the air quality is vastly better than it was when I was growing up, your population argument isn't making your case.
More "native Californians" leave this state, compared to Americans from other states streaming in. The vast majority of people "streaming in" to CA are so-called "foreign immigrants" and I'll let you guys determine where they're coming from.
Just so no none thinks I'm pulling data from right-wing sources, here's an article from the San Francisco Gate supporting my statements:
SF Gate articlerayford118 wrote:
sounds like yall just need to start moving east. Plenty of trees and clean air over here in LA
Prevailing winds head East. Legislation on the west coast have a direct impact on nearly every other state's air quality.
I don't mind OHV changes. They pollute disproportionally to cars. The alternative to this would be even stronger requirements for cars and trucks would would be many times more expensive.
BTW - Blitz makes a CARB fuel can with a lever-actuated nozzle. This one works pretty good.- sounds like yall just need to start moving east. Plenty of trees and clean air over here in LA
tsetsaf wrote:
Sloop Smitten wrote:
The best thing about living in California is listening to people gripe about how unbearable a place it is to live and how they can't wait to leave. Unfortunately the state must be full of people without any initiative because no one ever does and more stream in every day. Most of what people complain about are the very things in place to make it a place worthy to live. Doesn't make all of the rules right but it beats the alternative of no environmental regulations at all in the most populous state in the union. Check the recent news reoprt about the air quality in China. Reminds me of the Los Angeles area back int he 60's. Seven of the ten counties with the worst air pollution in the United States are in California. American Lugn Association "State of the Air" Puts a whole new meaning to the phrase "Suck it up".
People gripe because an unelected and unaccountable board is making random laws that do not fix the stated problems. Being said I agree that modern Carb restrictions on motor vehicles have resulted in huge benefits to air quality; the problem is that the board now, having picked the low lying fruit, is focusing on random "polluters" that will have a negligible impact on air quality.
I would venture to say the OHV market is very large in California. I would also venture to say those vehicles are used more often than other parts of the country due to the favorable weather year round. So I personally do not think that market are random polluters. Again-32 million people live in the state. All numbers must be taken in to consideration. Have you been out to Glamis on a given weekend? It's easy to see why DEF is now required with those mega diesel trucks hauling mega towhaulers loaded with OHV toys. C'mon it's like a small town out there in Glamis on a nice weekend!Sloop Smitten wrote:
The best thing about living in California is listening to people gripe about how unbearable a place it is to live and how they can't wait to leave. Unfortunately the state must be full of people without any initiative because no one ever does and more stream in every day. Most of what people complain about are the very things in place to make it a place worthy to live. Doesn't make all of the rules right but it beats the alternative of no environmental regulations at all in the most populous state in the union. Check the recent news reoprt about the air quality in China. Reminds me of the Los Angeles area back int he 60's. Seven of the ten counties with the worst air pollution in the United States are in California. American Lugn Association "State of the Air" Puts a whole new meaning to the phrase "Suck it up".
People gripe because an unelected and unaccountable board is making random laws that do not fix the stated problems. Being said I agree that modern Carb restrictions on motor vehicles have resulted in huge benefits to air quality; the problem is that the board now, having picked the low lying fruit, is focusing on random "polluters" that will have a negligible impact on air quality.Sloop Smitten wrote:
The best thing about living in California is listening to people gripe about how unbearable a place it is to live and how they can't wait to leave. Unfortunately the state must be full of people without any initiative because no one ever does and more stream in every day. Most of what people complain about are the very things in place to make it a place worthy to live. Doesn't make all of the rules right but it beats the alternative of no environmental regulations at all in the most populous state in the union. Check the recent news reoprt about the air quality in China. Reminds me of the Los Angeles area back int he 60's. Seven of the ten counties with the worst air pollution in the United States are in California. American Lugn Association "State of the Air" Puts a whole new meaning to the phrase "Suck it up".
Your absolutely right. Unless one has grown up in the 60s in Southern California they can't begin to understand why CARB makes these kind of rules. I remember the summertime in the San Gabriel Valley when the visibility on a hot summer day was less than 5 miles due to all the stuff in the air.
I did retire and leave the state because 32 million people were there with me and it seems they were on all the same roads and at all the same venues. TOO CROWDED!
I listed my house for double what I paid and it sold in three days! Imagine people wanting to live in such a crummy place!:)- The best thing about living in California is listening to people gripe about how unbearable a place it is to live and how they can't wait to leave. Unfortunately the state must be full of people without any initiative because no one ever does and more stream in every day. Most of what people complain about are the very things in place to make it a place worthy to live. Doesn't make all of the rules right but it beats the alternative of no environmental regulations at all in the most populous state in the union. Check the recent news reoprt about the air quality in China. Reminds me of the Los Angeles area back int he 60's. Seven of the ten counties with the worst air pollution in the United States are in California. American Lugn Association "State of the Air" Puts a whole new meaning to the phrase "Suck it up".
