Hartland ST235 80R 16 tires

Look into these Gladiator All Steel trailer tires 14 ply and will hold the load. I have Goodyear G614's on our Heartland Landmark Key Largo. And will be going to the Gladiators next year on it. Also putting the Gladiator QR35-TR All Steel Trailer Tires on my triple axle tilt car hauler next week.
Been running the Gladiators in 19.5's for Steer tires on my Chevy Kodiak. second season on them and there holding better then the High Dollar steer tires before these held up. Toyo's.
The Gladiator in All Steel trailer tires are $140.+ each. Vs $365. per tires for the G-614's. But I would not buy the ST's in these as they will not handle the weight and speed of the All Steel tires.

Pete

RustyJC wrote:

CJW8 wrote:
Most Chain tire dealers will not put LT tires on a trailer.

Other than the fact that I've had 5th wheels come with LT-designated tires as OEM original equipment (2000 Jayco Designer XL 3610RLTS - LT235/85R16E Goodyear Wrangler HT; 2004 DRV Mobile Suites 36RE3 - LT235/85R16G Goodyear G614 RST), I wonder what these chain tire dealers would do if you wanted the Goodyear G614 RST tires mentioned previously installed on your trailer? According to Goodyear, this is an all-steel construction trailer-only tire with a size designation of LT235/85R16. Goodyear G614 RST Specs.

Rusty

My 2005 Cardinal 29WBLX is placarded for LT235/85R16E's! Problem was the OEM tires were Kenda Klever china bombs. Within the first year of ownership Kenda gave me 110 each to remove all five before they failed. Some took their Loadstar ST replacements and where very sorry within a year or two. I used the 550 buck to help buy the RIBs and never looked back!(sic)

Chris

CJW8 wrote:
Most Chain tire dealers will not put LT tires on a trailer.

Other than the fact that I've had 5th wheels come with LT-designated tires as OEM original equipment (2000 Jayco Designer XL 3610RLTS - LT235/85R16E Goodyear Wrangler HT; 2004 DRV Mobile Suites 36RE3 - LT235/85R16G Goodyear G614 RST), I wonder what these chain tire dealers would do if you wanted the Goodyear G614 RST tires mentioned previously installed on your trailer? According to Goodyear, this is an all-steel construction trailer-only tire with a size designation of LT235/85R16. Goodyear G614 RST Specs.

Rusty

mayorms1 wrote:
Well, the more I read, the more questions I have. What about the Michelin XPS Ribs w/max load rating of 3042 pounds, to replace ST235/80R16 w/max load of 3520 pounds. Will this cause any problems? Our 3 axles are rated at 6k. I am also worried that the larger diameter of the XPS may not fit.

If LT235/85R16 are to large in diameter then look at LT245/75R16's. Both are rated at 3042. With six of them you have 18,252 pounds of capacity on the tires, which is more than the 18K total GVWR of the trailer. Given a 20 percent pin weight you would have around 14,400 of the axles. The high pressure marketing of ST tires does the public a dis-service.

Here are three excellent tire choices for the rig, arranged from the most expensive to the least.

1. Michelin XPS RIB (All Steel plies)
2. Bridgestone Duravis R250 (All Steel plies)
3. Bridgestone Duravis R500 (2 ply poly carcass, and true commercial grade tire)

As Cummins12V98 says go back and get LT's, if you want to be happy with your tires for the next 6-8 years. I ran the ribs for 6.5 years and 40K+ miles (then sold them on CL for 200 bucks with 60 percent tread left) and now have been running R250's for 4 years. My loading on 4 is about the same as your loading will be on six.

Chris

Most Chain tire dealers will not put LT tires on a trailer. I always take them my wheels and tell them what I want. For years I ran 4 285-85R-16 on a 14K 5th wheel. It was basically the same tire I ran on my truck. They were E rated all season tires (mud and snow). I didn't need them for that but they worked great in the sand when we went to the dunes providing excellent floatation.

mayorms1 wrote:
We have a 2013 Heartland Cyclone 4100, 3 axle, 5th Wheel, pulled by an '08 F350 Ford. We went into Discount Tire, thinking of buying 6 LT tires for the trailer, after having 2 blowouts in 1 day! They did not recommend the LT tires, so we purchased Hartland ST235. I have not been able to find any reviews on these tires and want to know if there is any of you with personal experience with this brand of tire. Also, what are the opinions on LT vs. ST tires?

You asked for LT tires and you left with ST's and now you ask what our opinions are? I would think you already know most opinions on here since you knew to ask for LT's.

Sorry but you just took the big one with no lube!

I would go back there and tell them to find you a set of Michelins or Bridgestone Dravus?, something US made LT tires.

They sold you what they had on the shelf and what they would make the most money on.

Sorry but I get sick of these stories.

Go back they will take care of you.

mayorms1 wrote:
Well, the more I read, the more questions I have. What about the Michelin XPS Ribs w/max load rating of 3042 pounds, to replace ST235/80R16 w/max load of 3520 pounds. Will this cause any problems? Our 3 axles are rated at 6k. I am also worried that the larger diameter of the XPS may not fit.

The Michelin's have enough rating for your axles. 99% of all rigs have plenty of spacing between the tires to go from 80 to 85. If it's too close, the Goodyear 614's are short for their size and actually identical in height to 80's they replace...

Well, the more I read, the more questions I have. What about the Michelin XPS Ribs w/max load rating of 3042 pounds, to replace ST235/80R16 w/max load of 3520 pounds. Will this cause any problems? Our 3 axles are rated at 6k. I am also worried that the larger diameter of the XPS may not fit.

op wrote:
my fiver came with 235/80R/16 I took all 4 off today and am going tomorrow. My rims are chinese and dont say anything about max air pressure. They are rated for 3950LBS I have 6k axles. GVW is 14k.

Your wheels are rated at 3950 lbs and will be fine for 110 psi.
If you go with a 3750 lb G rated tire I sure wouldn't derate them with 80 psi as the benefit of the G tire comes only at those higher pressures.
At only 80 psi they will run hotter than at 100-110 psi. Been there and tried that it on my GN trailers when I was young and less experienced. Derating a tire on a heavy trailer never worked for me especially on those long all day runs at interstate speeds. Heat builds up and tread delam can after several events.

A better tire would be the Bridgestone R-250 or the Michelin XPS Rib in a LT235/85-16 E tire at 3042 lbs capacity both are a all steel ply carcass commercial grade tire for 6+k axles.
Your 14k GVWR trailer may have 2800-3000 lb of pin weight which leaves 11k on the trailers axles or 2750-2800 lbs per tire.
The LT E at 3042 lb capacity will give the tires a nice reserve capacity for many years of trouble free service.

I will check out Mich RIB I guess. I also wonder if I will have fitting issues with a diff size???

The R-250 is the same commercial grade tire and will be cheaper than the Ribs.
The ST235/80-16 has a 28.8" diameter vs the LT235/85-16 E at 31.8".

The G614 G load range at 110 psi shows a 30.7" diameter.

The trailers owner will always have to check for 1" minimum between the tires and enough clearance at the top of the tire and sides of the tire. We can't do that for you......however a real tire dealer with real trailer experience will do that for you.

I sure wouldn't put any ST tire regardless of brand on a trailer that size.

Bamaman1 wrote:
The Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires were left off the above list, and they're quite popular RV tires. They're every bit the quality of the Michelins at less price, and far cheaper than G614 Goodyears.
I bought mine at Costco for $197 each, and the manager said when mounted on 1 ton work trucks he's seen them go 140-150K miles in hard usage. My old Toyo Open Country A/T tow vehicle tires were not in the same class at the Bridgestones in quality and construction.

Actually I mentioned the Duravis 250's on the first page along with the Michelin XPS RIBS, and I agree, the Duravis 250's seem to be as good a tire as the RIBS at a much cheaper cost..

The OP"s 5er has a GVW of 14,000#, I had a Coachmen Somerset with a GVW of 14,500# and ran "E" rated MIchelin tires on it for the 3 yrs I had it.....The "E" rated tire will handle that weight....

We don't "KNOW" if his wheels will handle 100-110 psi, yeah, I know, you don't have to air the G614's to 110 psi....but if his wheels are only designed to take 80 psi, it would be FAR cheaper to purchase the Duravis 250's, STILL get a great E rated tire which will handle SAFELY the weight he'll carry on his axle (2600-2800# of his 5er is pin weight), and save quite a bit of money over the $300 (and higher) cost each of the GY G614 tires.