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Searching_Ut
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Nov 23, 2015

help decide on upgrades/mods for long term part time

We're now less than 18 months out of retiring, and purchased the retirement rig now, intending to work out the bugs, and upgrade as required for the heavier than we're used to usage we intend to put on the new setup.

In looking at our logs for the last five years, our normal usage is 6-8k miles of travel a year, a few longer trips of up to 2 weeks at a time, most are 3 or 4 day trips with one way travel of 400 miles or less. Most trips were to forest service off the paved road campgrounds, followed by most of the western state National parks or state parks for the more developed stuff. Maybe two or three RV parks a year. Future plans are to spend weeks or months at different locations in order to explore more in depth at a much more relaxed pace. Alaska, the east coast, and spending a lot of time in Canada are on the agenda. The new rig is also much larger which will result in our having to adapt new routines, and of course we'll be spending a lot of time in the RV vs it just being a place to sleep which will be a big change for us as well.

Given the changed use of the RV, what mods would we probably find most useful? How should I rack and stack what I should add this winter right away, and what I should take a wait and see approach to?

Old TT ran virtually everything of DC. New one needs AC for TV, Stove vent fan which is part of microwave etc. With the bigger rig will I find myself forced into spots with at least elec, or will I still find a lot of options for off grid stuff? For those running inverters are you running whole house or dedicated circuits, and are you happy with the choice you made, or do you wish you went the other way?

From the posts I've seen, if we're going to use hookups much we'll want a power management system. Are thefts of portable ones that common, or is the general consensus to go with a hardwired system?

Washer/Dryer or combo unit seems like a no brainer to me, but the wife seems to think she would be okay using campground laundry's on occasion. While she's thinking that would be fine, she hasn't ever had to do it due to the shorter length trips we normally take. Thoughts?

What am I missing? I'm sure spending months vs days in the RV will include us wishing we had a lot of stuff we don't currently have.

BTW, we have all the outside stuff, screen room, grills, stoves, dutch ovens, chairs and tables, portable ice maker and blender etc. so I think we're pretty good there.
  • for campers that are moved often, I've found adding an auto leveling system to be more than worth the cost .... we went with Quadra Manufacturing's Bigfoot system .... if the camper is wired and plumbed for a washer/dryer, adding them isn't a necessity but would be well worth considering .... I can's speak for anyone else but I know just how much time we enjoy sitting in a laundromat .... depending on were you camp, having a fresh water filtration system can really come in handy .... we added an reverse osmosis drinking water filtration system and wouldn't want to be without it .... lastly, make sure you have a comfortable place to sit, rainy days happen
  • Since I haven't invested in a good solar/battery setup yet, my inverter is a smaller portable one as I don't want to have to remember to turn off/unplug all of the things that would be a parasitic drain. I do have a generator that like you I run occasionally if needed, usually around meal times for convenience, but that couple of hours a day seems to keep me topped off OK. I also only boondock occasionally. If I was going to make a larger habit of it I would definitely be looking more heavily into solar. Oh and that microwave vent fan is rarely vented outside so smells and humidity don't get taken care of very easily without the use of the roof vents anyway, which if it has a fan (Fantastic fan or MaxAir type) will be able to be used off of the battery. I never use the vent on the microwave, just the roof vent which happens to be right above the stove.

    Washer and dryer? If you do intend to boondock a lot it would be barely useful as they tend to be smaller and need to run for several hours per load and suck lots of resources . I usually have FHU and wish I had a W/D just for convenience but a good laundry facility lets me get several loads done all at once by using multiple machines at the same time, so it's not that bad either. You will hear lots of debate on usefulness verses storage space.

    Some people (me included) have figured out a way to refill their fresh water tanks by modifying their onboard water pumps and the winterizing system hose, and it can be easy depending on how accessible your plumbing is, but most bring an extra 12v pump just for that. For the stinky water it's funny how many people get a huge blue tote or tank so that they don't have to do the deed too often just to find out they have no good place to store something that big and can barely lift it or handle it when full.

    When I got my new RV I spent most of my first modification time on organization. I was surprised at how many cabinets or compartments didn't have any shelves. Trying to make new shelves and brackets or figuring out the perfect size tote bins that would fit a space was a fun game. It seemed like there was so much wasted space. I will say that I have done a pretty good job at using the space and organizing ways to fit lots of stuff in places but now I'm easily fitting more stuff than originally designed and am pushing the weight limit. :)
  • Naio's avatar
    Naio
    Explorer II
    Searching_Ut wrote:
    (I won't even try to explain the hairdryer while at a remote site)


    I dunno about your wife, but my hair takes 36 hours to dry in cool weather. That's a long time to be wet and cold. By the time it's almost dry, it's time to wash it again.

    I don't travel with a hair dryer, but I can see how it might be smart to do so.
  • Hopefully the fridge and water heater will run off propane. The fridge might require minimal 12V power to run the controls. A furnace is also a major power user, for the blower.

    Since you are from Utah you may not use one, but coffee makers are notorious power hogs.
  • I hadn't thought about adding water to the fresh water tank. I have a couple 15 gallon portable tanks, and several 5 to 7 gallon tanks as well as a water thief, but the new 5er doesn't have a gravity fill so I can't just dump a few extra gallons in like I'm used to doing. I'll have to figure out a pump setup, and I'll need to explore the waste hauling options. Great inputs, and I am making list.

    The battery bank, possible solar thing I need to think through. We only got to use the new rig for 3 short trips, 7 days total, all hookup sites so I don't know what to expect battery life wise from the 2 group 24's I have. I don't anticipate they will last long though. Although most of the lighting is LED, the fridge, water heater etc seem to be more power thirsty than the stuff in my old Timber Ridge. I have 2 champion 2000 inverter generators currently so I can hopefully run at least 1 ac unit in a pinch, or the microwave if really needed. historically though I've only used a single generator to run the hair dryer in the morning, and a couple hours every few days in order to charge the batteries back up to 80 to 90 percent. (I won't even try to explain the hairdryer while at a remote site) We never were out long enough that I worried about not bringing the batteries up to full charge while on the trip. Thinking about it now, that's not a good idea for weeks or months on end.
  • If you want to continue off the grid then you should look at a solar panel setup. With those and some extra batteries a lot of people manage to get by. It requires power management on your part, thinking about how much power a utensil requires and so on. Switching to all LED lighting helps with that since it greatly reduces the load from lights.

    My wife is the same and just prefers to use the CG washer and drier. You would definitely only be able to run those on shore power.

    The other thing you have to think about is water and wastewater control if you plan to stay off grid for weeks at a time. People use these wastewater totes assuming there is a dump near by.

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    Hauling drinking water is a different issue, if there is a faucet semiclose to your campsite you may be able to use a water thief to get water to your camper, it lets you connect to one of those faucets without threads:

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    Otherwise you'll have to get some containers and a pump to move water into your tank. I've heard of people using a 55 gal drum but I don't think I'd want to haul one around with me, multiple 5 gallon containers would probably work.

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    Those are collapsable and won't take up a lot of room.
  • I would not be without our washer and dryer. The wife insisted on them and they've made our trips more enjoyable. We are not retired or full timers but spend several at the lake in the summer.

    Have fun in your travels. Only twenty years to go for us.....