Help me make sense of the scale numbers

fj12ryder wrote:
If Pin Weight is the amount of weight loaded onto the hitch then how do you find out what the hitch weighs with the load on it? You weigh the truck on has the hitch mounted in it. What NC Hauler is saying is Rear Axle weight gain is Total Hitch weight, not the total amount the truck/hitch gains when the 5th wheel is loaded. Which is incorrect IMO.

Another way to look at it: If you mounted the hitch on a tripod, put the tripod on a scale, and then put the 5th wheel on that hitch, what would the weight be? In this case the weight would be 2440 lbs.

:h Huh....I don't care what my "hitch" weighs..when I weighed my truck, ready to camp, wife, dogs, full tank of fuel, full tank of DEF, toolbox and 5er hitch all in my truck, I was given a scale ticket showing rear axle weight (drive axle), THEN the next time I weighed was with the 5er hooked to my truck, IE, king pin weight now setting on the hitch which WILL add weight to the rear axle (drive axle),......"pin weight" , as defined is weight setting on the 5er hitch, which can be determined by weight on the rear axle before 5er is hooked up and then weighing again with 5er hooked up, (subtracting empty from loaded).. The pin weight will show up on the rear axle (drive axle) scaled weight.

Again, I'm going by the definition of what Pin weight is, ie, the amount of weight put on the hitch, which will show up when the drive axle,(rear axle) is weighed before 5er is hitched up and then weighed when 5er is setting on the 5er.

Not my definition....but the definition given to explain pin weight....I didn't write the information, nor did I make up a definition of "pin weight"....I'm going by what I've researched on the topic.

All 5th wheel hitches are in the truck bed, located very near to, if not setting over the rear axle...If I take my truck to the scales loaded to go camping, everything, everybody in the truck, but 5er not hooked up and I get a drive axle weight reading of 3860#, then I hook up my 5er, ie put the weight of the King pin onto my hitch and then weigh, and the weight is now 7200#, (weight NOW being put on the rear axle), then, by definition of "pin weight", I subtract 3860# (empty bed, nothing on hitch) from 7200#, (weight of pin on 5er that I just set on my hitch), the pin weight of the 5er PER DEFINITION OF PIN WEIGHT IS 7200# less 3860#, which gives me a pin weight of 3340#...don't want to get into a war of words...I'm stating the definition of "pin weight"....I also added another 180# to my front axle, to me possibly making "pin weight" of my 5er 3340# + 180= 3520...BUT definition (which I didn't define), add that to the formula...thus the reason I'm talking about "pin weight"...heck look it up...it's there for the research....It's not something I made up....it's most of the definitions on "pin weigh" for a 5th wheel that I've found...Never stated it was right or wrong...just stating how it is DEFINED....Either way, again, add however one want's to, As I stated, no matter how I would figure MY pin weight I'm over 1,000# under my trucks GVWR and WELL under it's RAWR:)