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57_Panhead
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Sep 07, 2017

Man on a mission, sorry but it's kind of long

It's been quite a while since I've posted here. Been dealing with some health issues that are, for now anyway, under control.

Living in California has its challenges and one of those is pulling triple, or actually double since it's only 2 trailers. Unlike any other state in the nation that allows triple towing, California requires the driver to have a FULL class A COMMERCIAL drivers license with Doubles/triples endorsement and a current DOT medical card. Don't believe it? Check with the CHP at any truck scale.

Now, under the reciprocity laws that exist between all the states, what your license allows you to operate in your home state is good in any other state. For example, in Utah there is no additional license requirement to pull any RV and it is the same if you want to pull triple. Under the reciprocity agreement that Utah driver can pull his triple combination up and down the state of California all day long and be perfectly legal. How is this fair and equitable? In fact I would argue that under the Equal Protection clause in the Constitution wouldn't California's law be unconstitutional?

Are there any lawyers (real, not jailhouse) here on the forum who would know if I'm on the right track or if I'm barking up an empty tree?

It is my new goal in life to right this injustice and get the vehicle code changed. I have spoken with the Commercial Division of the CHP in Sacramento and to my State Assemblyman's office and both agreed that it is something that should be addressed.

I'd like some input from the members here, law enforcement, lawyers, judges, anybody who can offer some meaningful insight on this subject.

As a side note, as a retired truck driver, I do have the necessary license in place. I'm just getting tired of having to get the DOT physical every year now. I have to see a "DOT Certified" physician and my regular doctor isn't DOT Certified so I have to find someone else for that function only and insurance doesn't pay a dime.

If the law can't be changed through the proper channels, I would be willing to go "out of compliance" and intentionally get a citation then argue my case in court and see where that takes me.
After all, it would only be an infraction, no big deal.

It's good to be back on the forum after a looonnnnnggggg absence, actually it's good to be ANYWHERE.

Thanks for reading
Steve

I woke up not dead again today......Willie Nelson

46 Replies

  • "Under the reciprocity agreement that Utah driver can pull his triple combination up and down the state of California all day long"

    Let me think of the last time I saw a triple in Southern California...ah...well...never!

    Wow, Age. A Constitutional solar. I believe you are correct. Interstate commerce clause doesn't go to triple trailers.
  • My FIL towed tripples all over the country from here in Wa. state where it's not legal.
    CoThe Popo never bothered him anywhere.
    I don't think they were aware of the laws or even cared.
  • The paper, like the licence or registration, has reciprocity. The physical stuff like lights, length and stuff like that does not usually have reciprocity.
    Like said above, this is 50 states not 1, if you don't like the state you live in you are free to move.
  • agesilaus wrote:
    Examine the 10th Amendment, which will show you are wrong. We do not have a Federal system of government tho plenty of people are trying to drive it that way. Don't like the Peoples Republic of California? Move out like millions of others, apply the John Galt fix to the place.


    Nothing would please me more than to leave Commiefornia but sadly my wife wont go.

    I'm not trying to suggest that states shouldn't have the right to make and enforce laws. It should be fair and equitable in its application and enforcement. Why should a driver from another state be able to come into California and drive a combination of vehicles legally that I cannot with the same class license in my own state? This is just wrong and short sighted on the California Legislatures part.

    Additionally, would you rather there not be a Federal Reciprocity law that allows you the ability to drive anywhere in the nation without a patchwork of license requirements?

    Steve
  • I don't know of any reciprocity agreement between states that will allow you that kind of liberty. If your home state allows you to pull a double tow of 75' and you get stopped in a state that only allows 65', you'll get a ticket.

    I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
  • Examine the 10th Amendment, which will show you are wrong. We do not have a Federal system of government tho plenty of people are trying to drive it that way. Don't like the Peoples Republic of California? Move out like millions of others, apply the John Galt fix to the place.