New Redwood Need New Truck Help

MTPockets1 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

MTPockets1 wrote:
I find the topic pretty interesting. Those convinced their SRW can pull anything will never change, when the 5th wheel topic is regarding "payload". An F250 can tow plenty, but the payload limit is less than an F350 SRW - and the payload for the SRW is less than the DRW. People must know their "actual" pin weight to know if their truck is properly sized. Too many guesses based on a percentage of their trailer GVWR. I "know" my pin weight (3400 lbs) and I know my truck empty and loaded weight, and I know a F350 SRW would tow fine, but would be overloaded. That's why I bought the DRW.... If you have been to the scales and know your total weights, and you are under your trucks payload label, then you have the right truck.

I "know" my SRW 3500 would not be overloaded with your 3400# pin weight. Been there.

. 3400 is my pin weight, but my hitch weight is about 150, my tool box and contents are 300, two passengers 400, that's another 850, plus my 50 gallon transfer flow fuel tank, another 450 ... That's another 1300 lbs, plus I seem to recall the weight of truck fuel has to be added as well? That would be another 300 lbs. My Big Horn GVWR is 14,000 so my pin is close to 24%. We full time so we are packed. A 5vr with 16,000 GVWR is gonna go well over 3000 on pin, but if pushing 24%, closer to 3800 lbs, add to that the stuff in the truck and you'll be well beyond SRW label limits... Again, if using actual weights SRW is fine, but I'm just suggesting that people should stop guessing and hoping and go to the scales.

Nice to see some people understand how to determine what tow vehicle is actually needed to safely tow a load with all the information included.

Thanks!

Ford and GMC spec sheets list payload maximum based on a stripped down truck. These numbers reflect a maximum without bumpers and in Fords case, without radio and center console. Also, empty fuel tank; but, they do give an allowance for a driver weighing 150lbs. Source; Car & Driver August 4th article.

To clarify, payload numbers are always calculated after all fluids are full.

transamz9 wrote:

MTPockets1 wrote:
I find the topic pretty interesting. Those convinced their SRW can pull anything will never change, when the 5th wheel topic is regarding "payload". An F250 can tow plenty, but the payload limit is less than an F350 SRW - and the payload for the SRW is less than the DRW. People must know their "actual" pin weight to know if their truck is properly sized. Too many guesses based on a percentage of their trailer GVWR. I "know" my pin weight (3400 lbs) and I know my truck empty and loaded weight, and I know a F350 SRW would tow fine, but would be overloaded. That's why I bought the DRW.... If you have been to the scales and know your total weights, and you are under your trucks payload label, then you have the right truck.

I "know" my SRW 3500 would not be overloaded with your 3400# pin weight. Been there.

. 3400 is my pin weight, but my hitch weight is about 150, my tool box and contents are 300, two passengers 400, that's another 850, plus my 50 gallon transfer flow fuel tank, another 450 ... That's another 1300 lbs, plus I seem to recall the weight of truck fuel has to be added as well? That would be another 300 lbs. My Big Horn GVWR is 14,000 so my pin is close to 24%. We full time so we are packed. A 5vr with 16,000 GVWR is gonna go well over 3000 on pin, but if pushing 24%, closer to 3800 lbs, add to that the stuff in the truck and you'll be well beyond SRW label limits... Again, if using actual weights SRW is fine, but I'm just suggesting that people should stop guessing and hoping and go to the scales.

MTPockets1 wrote:
I find the topic pretty interesting. Those convinced their SRW can pull anything will never change, when the 5th wheel topic is regarding "payload". An F250 can tow plenty, but the payload limit is less than an F350 SRW - and the payload for the SRW is less than the DRW. People must know their "actual" pin weight to know if their truck is properly sized. Too many guesses based on a percentage of their trailer GVWR. I "know" my pin weight (3400 lbs) and I know my truck empty and loaded weight, and I know a F350 SRW would tow fine, but would be overloaded. That's why I bought the DRW.... If you have been to the scales and know your total weights, and you are under your trucks payload label, then you have the right truck.

I "know" my SRW 3500 would not be overloaded with your 3400# pin weight. Been there.

My dad just bought a 2014 CDT/Asin 3500 2x4 CC long bed Lariat SRW and has a payload of 4000#. It is more than fine for his 33'+ Montana.

Blanket statement for OPs big 5er:

If you are going to be full timing or on the road more months than not or travel mountainous roads a LOT, go with the 350/3500 DRW or bigger. If the camper sits at home most of the time and the truck is in the garage collecting dust, instead of miles, get a truck that is marginal, know its limitations and abide accordingly.

I find the topic pretty interesting. Those convinced their SRW can pull anything will never change, when the 5th wheel topic is regarding "payload". An F250 can tow plenty, but the payload limit is less than an F350 SRW - and the payload for the SRW is less than the DRW. People must know their "actual" pin weight to know if their truck is properly sized. Too many guesses based on a percentage of their trailer GVWR. I "know" my pin weight (3400 lbs) and I know my truck empty and loaded weight, and I know a F350 SRW would tow fine, but would be overloaded. That's why I bought the DRW.... If you have been to the scales and know your total weights, and you are under your trucks payload label, then you have the right truck.

ckwizard777 wrote:

kennethwooster wrote:
I was running SRW all these years and realized I was really overweight. Want to buy a Lifestyle about 36-38 foot. Anyway pulling the 'cameo with 2014 DRW F 350 No comparison running
DRW over SRW. Don't let anybody persuade you that SRW is adequate. It will pull it buy not nearly as safe, and comfortable.

Absolutly correct, My last 2- tow vehicals where DRW and my current tow vehical is 2500hd and there is a night and day differance in stability when compared to a dually so at some point I will be goin back to DRW. Anyone that tells ya differant has never towed with a dually or has not towed anything heavy enough to notice the differance.

Tow with dually,Dual tandem,dual tri-axle and haul on over size permit and a SRW handles it's max as well as a drw does it's max. Sometimes better. A SRW trucks week point is the tires. A DRW truck's week point is the springs unless you are talking about cab and chassis trucks. Whole other ballgame with CC trucks.

The OP is looking at a 5er that can be handled by a SRW 3500.

BTW, there is night and day difference between a 2007 2500 and a 2014/15 3500 SRW or even a 2500 for that matter.

kennethwooster wrote:
I was running SRW all these years and realized I was really overweight. Want to buy a Lifestyle about 36-38 foot. Anyway pulling the 'cameo with 2014 DRW F 350 No comparison running
DRW over SRW. Don't let anybody persuade you that SRW is adequate. It will pull it buy not nearly as safe, and comfortable.

And I take it that your last SRW was a 13 or 14 3500 to make this comparison? A lot of things changed on the 13+ SRW trucks.

kennethwooster wrote:
I was running SRW all these years and realized I was really overweight. Want to buy a Lifestyle about 36-38 foot. Anyway pulling the 'cameo with 2014 DRW F 350 No comparison running
DRW over SRW. Don't let anybody persuade you that SRW is adequate. It will pull it buy not nearly as safe, and comfortable.

Absolutly correct, My last 2- tow vehicals where DRW and my current tow vehical is 2500hd and there is a night and day differance in stability when compared to a dually so at some point I will be goin back to DRW. Anyone that tells ya differant has never towed with a dually or has not towed anything heavy enough to notice the differance.