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PktChg
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Aug 20, 2014

pin extender???

I am new here and wanted to ask a clarifying question: I have a Montana 3400rl and it looks like I have a pin extension on it. In all the photos I have seen of others, it appears I have one. I don't have the pin directly under my 5'er, it is more out front. I now have a short box truck (Dodge 3500 Mega Cab) and have been pricing slider hitches. .......WOW!! Since it appears I have a pin extender, do I really need the slider or can I use a stationary hitch??

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  • Just remember that an extended pin box will not allow you to jackknife the trailer anywhere near 90°. It gets you more angle, but not really very much more.

    Only a slider, either a sliding hitch or a sliding pin, any of the various designs, will get you a 90° jackknife on a short bed truck.

    Totally your decision on how much angle you can live with.
  • I had an extended pin box, pulling with a Ford short bed. Getting ready for a trip and needed a quick repair in Amarillo Tx, 120 miles away. Man that worked for me on the farm took it to Amarillo and got repair done. Then on way home got into a tight spot trying to buy a coke, and took out rear window. I was lucky and got it replaced very quickly but cost almost 1000.00. I decided a auto slider would be great, and definitely loved the Pullright. Finally woke up and bought a DRM with long bed. I'm now using a B&W. Fantastic hitch.
  • I towed my Cedar Creek with the pin box extender for two years with my short bed 2003 Ram. I removed it when I bought my current truck a long bed. They work as advertised. New the cost is around $400 and eliminate the need for a slider. Turned the truck to the extreme and never hit the cab. I recommend them as an alternative to the slider hitch. One word of caution though, remove your factory tail gate and run without one or replace with a fabric one. On an extreme angle you could hit the top of your tail gate. I know.
  • Yes, you have an extended pin box. But, Dodge has the shortest cab-to-axle distance of the big 3, about 37 inches vs 41-42 for Ford and GM. If your Montana is an older unit that doesn't have a front cap with notched corners, then you will probably be limited to a max angle around 50 degrees. If you are comfortable with that limitation and pay close attention, then all is OK. If the Montana has notched corners, then max angle should be around 80 degrees.

    For 22 yrs, three different GM short bed trucks limited my max angle to about 63 degrees and I never had a problem, new fiver has notched front cap.

    If you feel the need for more maneuverability, there are plenty of manual sliding hitches, several auto sliding hitches and the Reese Revolution (aka Sidewinder) pin box.
  • Suggestion---Take a measuring tape and measure the distance from the pin center to the outside edge of your fw. Then measure the distance from the hitch center to your cab. If the distance from hitch to cab is greater than distance from pin to edge of fw then you are good to go. If not be real careful or get a slider.
  • newman fulltimer wrote:
    youreally dont need a slider but if uncomfortable pulling the i would recomend the reese revolution or side winder pin box


    The only thing I could find is: Lippert Component, #164338.
  • newman fulltimer wrote:
    youreally dont need a slider but if uncomfortable pulling the i would recomend the reese revolution or side winder pin box


    I have my CDL and have driven tractor-trailers and long boxes for a year now. It is not a worry for me, I just wanted to make sure the extra length would be sufficient.
  • youreally dont need a slider but if uncomfortable pulling the i would recomend the reese revolution or side winder pin box
  • Pictures would most definitely help..... Is there any brand or model name on your "extension"?