Tow Vehicle for 22,000 Pounds Plus

sayoung wrote:

Texas Roadrunner wrote:
Just wanted to say that I (Texas Roadrunner) am the original poster and I am not a "he". Heat, raw onions, and poisonous snakes are about the only things I hate. As stated initially, just wanted to find out your experiences with towing a heavy fiver, e.g. 22,000 pounds plus with a Ford or Ram. I am grateful to all who took the time to answer my query. Those answers have helped us a good deal. As stated we love our GMC dually, DH really hates to part with it, but we are really concerned about the numbers which tell us we would have problems towing in the mountains, and that is where we go to escape that dreaded heat!

Isn't a 2015 D/A dually rated at 23500 lb 5er.You have as good a TV as you can get now . Try it before you go spend your money and then find out not any better with another rig.

Right now we are at 22,500 lbs. with not a stick of cargo loaded. Although I am not sure of the weight of our cargo, most folks carry 1500 - 2000 lbs, so that would put us over the recommended tow weight and GVWR, hence we feel we should upgrade to a truck with a higher towing capacity.

Texas Roadrunner wrote:
Just wanted to say that I (Texas Roadrunner) am the original poster and I am not a "he". Heat, raw onions, and poisonous snakes are about the only things I hate. As stated initially, just wanted to find out your experiences with towing a heavy fiver, e.g. 22,000 pounds plus with a Ford or Ram. I am grateful to all who took the time to answer my query. Those answers have helped us a good deal. As stated we love our GMC dually, DH really hates to part with it, but we are really concerned about the numbers which tell us we would have problems towing in the mountains, and that is where we go to escape that dreaded heat!

Isn't a 2015 D/A dually rated at 23500 lb 5er.You have as good a TV as you can get now . Try it before you go spend your money and then find out not any better with another rig.

Texas Roadrunner wrote:
Just wanted to say that I (Texas Roadrunner) am the original poster and I am not a "he". Heat, raw onions, and poisonous snakes are about the only things I hate. As stated initially, just wanted to find out your experiences with towing a heavy fiver, e.g. 22,000 pounds plus with a Ford or Ram. I am grateful to all who took the time to answer my query. Those answers have helped us a good deal. As stated we love our GMC dually, DH really hates to part with it, but we are really concerned about the numbers which tell us we would have problems towing in the mountains, and that is where we go to escape that dreaded heat!

If you can carry the pin weight within specs, why worry about mountains and get rid of a perfectly good truck? The trailer should stop itself and the truck stops itself; if you want extra braking power, install an exhaust brake on the truck. Now, if you're real marginal on the numbers with the current truck, yes, you might want to get a newer truck with a higher payload. Brakes =might= be slightly better, but they might be the same, too. Engines and transmissions can be upgraded relatively cheaply for both performance and longevity (thinking mild "chipping" and/or oil coolers), but towing performance would be about the same, IMO. My '02 2500HD Duramax is a bit anemic in power, so I just slow down and run with the semis on upgrades and watch my speed on downgrades. Here in AZ, we have any number of miles-long grades, so it's just part of RVing here, and you just have to learn to live with it. I'm old enough to know that, while I'd love to have a fire-breathing monster of a truck, I certainly don't need it, and I'm better off without it! :-)

Lyle

Just wanted to say that I (Texas Roadrunner) am the original poster and I am not a "he". Heat, raw onions, and poisonous snakes are about the only things I hate. As stated initially, just wanted to find out your experiences with towing a heavy fiver, e.g. 22,000 pounds plus with a Ford or Ram. I am grateful to all who took the time to answer my query. Those answers have helped us a good deal. As stated we love our GMC dually, DH really hates to part with it, but we are really concerned about the numbers which tell us we would have problems towing in the mountains, and that is where we go to escape that dreaded heat!

avvidclif1 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Thanks NC!

The RV has a GVWR of 21k. It actually weighs 23k. The axles weigh 17,500#. The tires are GY "H" that rate at 4,806# per tire. I will be at MorRyde in May to add the 2" riser so that will transfer some weight to the truck. May possible upgrade the IS suspensions at that time.

I hope your numbers are backwards. Towing 2k over GVWR is not smart.

No they are not backwards. I could swap out the 21K TrailAire Kingpin to a 23K MorRyde Kingpin and all would be well. But I did replace all the 5/8" bolts holding the kingpin to the frame with 3/4" frame bolts. I am 750# over the 8K axle ratings and as said may upgrade something at MorRyde. Also my tires are more than strong enough.

The correct truck is the truck the spec's say you can pull with no matter what the brand or size.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Thanks NC!

The RV has a GVWR of 21k. It actually weighs 23k. The axles weigh 17,500#. The tires are GY "H" that rate at 4,806# per tire. I will be at MorRyde in May to add the 2" riser so that will transfer some weight to the truck. May possible upgrade the IS suspensions at that time.

I hope your numbers are backwards. Towing 2k over GVWR is not smart.

dezl_dr wrote:
Ford here. It's a great truck, don't let the haters fool you. They have no issues I run a fleet of trucks at work. Total of a million miles a year. No problems to speak of.

30k total on the scales. Ram owners brag torque and forget hp. Fact is any mordern drw has more than enough power and capability to tow a 20k plus trailer.

Watch fast line truck videos towing up I70 see what truck pulls it fastest if that's important to you. Then see how close that all are. Smh

Not into fast...Street light to street light isn't what I'm going for now., nor are any Ram truck owners, WE KNOW, which trucks are FASTER..Longevity and reliability while towing heavy in the mountains is what I'm looking for...If I wanted fast, I'd opt for the Chevy D/A...or the Hellcat:B

Didn't see anyone hating in here except for the OP, up to his usual...Appears topic was about Chevrolet ....how did Ford get in there? I owned 4 of those D/A combo's they were great, still are, I'm just open minded enough after 35 years with Chevy, so try another brand...and I was fortunate to pick another good one..Hech, all of the Big three are good, but if someone can't start a fight about whose bike is the fastest or the best, this wouldn't be an elementary schools play ground and we couldn't be little boys playing with the usual dose of "bully" thrown in....today's new cyber world...Walk tall and carry a big keyboard:B

Ford here. It's a great truck, don't let the haters fool you. They have no issues I run a fleet of trucks at work. Total of a million miles a year. No problems to speak of.

30k total on the scales. Ram owners brag torque and forget hp. Fact is any mordern drw has more than enough power and capability to tow a 20k plus trailer.

Watch fast line truck videos towing up I70 see what truck pulls it fastest if that's important to you. Then see how close that all are. Smh

Thanks NC!

The RV has a GVWR of 21k. It actually weighs 23k. The axles weigh 17,500#. The tires are GY "H" that rate at 4,806# per tire. I will be at MorRyde in May to add the 2" riser so that will transfer some weight to the truck. May possible upgrade the IS suspensions at that time.