Towing Capability

My choice was easy. The 2009 F350 CC Diesel was sitting there discounted about 13k. A 2010 F250 CC Gas was about the same price. Since I don't trade all the time (I still have my 96 GMC I bought new) it was a no brainer for me. They didn't have any 2009 F250's on the lot.

DazedNConfused wrote:


If only it were that black and white. I wanted an F-350...but was glad I called the insurance company before I purchased. Because it has a GVWR of over 10,000 lbs, the state of NC forces me into a commercial policy. It would have been $1,200 more per year than the F-250. Since we camp about 36-40 nites per year, and this truck needs to be my daily driver, that $1,200 extra was too much considering my truck tows only 10% of the time I drive it. If insurance were the same, I'd have gotten the 350. But instead bought the 250 and that first year's savings of $1,200 more than paid for my air bags that the softer 250 suspension needed help with. Just economics for me.

Things have changed in NC since I moved out a little over 2 years ago then. I went from a 2500 to 3500 DRW an my insurance went up a little over $100 a year and that was because the 3500 was 5 years newer. The 3500 had GVWR of 11300 and nothing was ever said about commercial by my agent. I actually switched insurance companies 3 times while there for lower rates and never had issue with weight. When did NC start the commercial charge for weight?

JIMNLIN wrote:

Some times things just don't make sense. I guess that's why Ford offers an optional 10,000 lb gvwr sticker at no cost for their F350 SRW trucks

Looking at Fords Body Advisory spec pages shows The F350 SRW with 10k GVWR 6290 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3440 lbs of capacity
vs
the F250 with 10k GVWR 6100 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3400 lbs of capacity.

That doesn't make a lot of sense either.

Ya, why spend $900.00 to get 40lbs of payload with the same tow rating?http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

Some times things just don't make sense. I guess that's why Ford offers an optional 10,000 lb gvwr sticker at no cost for their F350 SRW trucks

Looking at Fords Body Advisory spec pages shows The F350 SRW with 10k GVWR 6290 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3440 lbs of capacity
vs
the F250 with 10k GVWR 6100 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3400 lbs of capacity.

That doesn't make a lot of sense either.

DazedNConfused wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

Dave E wrote:

amxpress wrote:

lol at the 3/4 ton guys who have to "justify" their purchase

I don't need to justify buying my 2500 (f250). That's all I could afford at the time and it fit my needs, as it still does.
I don't give a R.A. about if others don't like it or have a problem with it.

exactly

I agree that it matters nothing what others think. The thing I see as a shame is that there is little difference in price going from a 3/4 ton HD truck to a 1 ton SRW so why bother with the 3/4 ton. The other thing that people find surprising is that in many cases a dually is cheaper than a SRW. In the case of the new Ford, the 20" wheel option is more costly than is the dually package. So to think you are saving money by purchasing a less capable truck might be the result of lack of information. There are reasons to buy a 1 ton SRW over a dually but saving money on the purchase price is hardly a good one. I know of no good reason to purchase a 3/4 ton HD over a 1 ton SRW.

If only it were that black and white. I wanted an F-350...but was glad I called the insurance company before I purchased. Because it has a GVWR of over 10,000 lbs, the state of NC forces me into a commercial policy. It would have been $1,200 more per year than the F-250. Since we camp about 36-40 nites per year, and this truck needs to be my daily driver, that $1,200 extra was too much considering my truck tows only 10% of the time I drive it. If insurance were the same, I'd have gotten the 350. But instead bought the 250 and that first year's savings of $1,200 more than paid for my air bags that the softer 250 suspension needed help with. Just economics for me.

Some times things just don't make sense. I guess that's why Ford offers an optional 10,000 lb gvwr sticker at no cost for their F350 SRW trucks.

4x4ord wrote:

Dave E wrote:

amxpress wrote:

lol at the 3/4 ton guys who have to "justify" their purchase

I don't need to justify buying my 2500 (f250). That's all I could afford at the time and it fit my needs, as it still does.
I don't give a R.A. about if others don't like it or have a problem with it.

exactly

I agree that it matters nothing what others think. The thing I see as a shame is that there is little difference in price going from a 3/4 ton HD truck to a 1 ton SRW so why bother with the 3/4 ton. The other thing that people find surprising is that in many cases a dually is cheaper than a SRW. In the case of the new Ford, the 20" wheel option is more costly than is the dually package. So to think you are saving money by purchasing a less capable truck might be the result of lack of information. There are reasons to buy a 1 ton SRW over a dually but saving money on the purchase price is hardly a good one. I know of no good reason to purchase a 3/4 ton HD over a 1 ton SRW.

If only it were that black and white. I wanted an F-350...but was glad I called the insurance company before I purchased. Because it has a GVWR of over 10,000 lbs, the state of NC forces me into a commercial policy. It would have been $1,200 more per year than the F-250. Since we camp about 36-40 nites per year, and this truck needs to be my daily driver, that $1,200 extra was too much considering my truck tows only 10% of the time I drive it. If insurance were the same, I'd have gotten the 350. But instead bought the 250 and that first year's savings of $1,200 more than paid for my air bags that the softer 250 suspension needed help with. Just economics for me.

4x4ord wrote:

Dave E wrote:

amxpress wrote:

lol at the 3/4 ton guys who have to "justify" their purchase

I don't need to justify buying my 2500 (f250). That's all I could afford at the time and it fit my needs, as it still does.
I don't give a R.A. about if others don't like it or have a problem with it.

exactly

I agree that it matters nothing what others think. The thing I see as a shame is that there is little difference in price going from a 3/4 ton HD truck to a 1 ton SRW so why bother with the 3/4 ton. The other thing that people find surprising is that in many cases a dually is cheaper than a SRW. In the case of the new Ford, the 20" wheel option is more costly than is the dually package. So to think you are saving money by purchasing a less capable truck might be the result of lack of information. There are reasons to buy a 1 ton SRW over a dually but saving money on the purchase price is hardly a good one. I know of no good reason to purchase a 3/4 ton HD over a 1 ton SRW.

I liked the color and options on my 2500, no need to look for a slightly more expensive 3500 to only get one more 1/4" leaf spring. It's not like I needed the CCC or tow rating of a 3500 anyway. For some it's a compromise between a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton. They need slightly more than the 1/2 ton but not as much as a 1 ton. If I was looking for a new truck and was considering towing heavy then yes by all means I would go 1 ton. In reality the manufacturers should combine the two and have a lighter GVW 350-3500 version to compensate if some states had regulations on GVW or the trucks weight. Not everybody needs 3000+lbs of payload or 18,000lb tow rating. But they need more than 1400lbs and 9500lb tow rating.

Dave E wrote:

amxpress wrote:

lol at the 3/4 ton guys who have to "justify" their purchase

I don't need to justify buying my 2500 (f250). That's all I could afford at the time and it fit my needs, as it still does.
I don't give a R.A. about if others don't like it or have a problem with it.

exactly

I agree that it matters nothing what others think. The thing I see as a shame is that there is little difference in price going from a 3/4 ton HD truck to a 1 ton SRW so why bother with the 3/4 ton. The other thing that people find surprising is that in many cases a dually is cheaper than a SRW. In the case of the new Ford, the 20" wheel option is more costly than is the dually package. So to think you are saving money by purchasing a less capable truck might be the result of lack of information. There are reasons to buy a 1 ton SRW over a dually but saving money on the purchase price is hardly a good one. I know of no good reason to purchase a 3/4 ton HD over a 1 ton SRW.

Me Again wrote:
1) Your truck displaying more weight at the combined axles than the truck's declared GVWR by the manufacturer -- in my case, 10,000 lbs

There is no law for this issue. Again hotshot haulers would get a ticket at every chicken coop if there was. So just more internet misinformation.

Chris

True,
but your 10k registered weight doesn't mean you can exceed your trucks individual axle/tire load limits as the CA commander was saying in the email. This is true for our private use trucks and trailers or my commercially registered truck/trailer unless the vehicles are operating with a overweight permit.

This from CA on the registerd GVW subject;

What are GVW and CGW?

3. Q - Can I declare an operating weight higher than my vehicle's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)?

A- Yes, but only if you are declaring the weight of your vehicle in combination with a towed vehicle and its load (the Combined Gross Weight). NOTE: A declared Combined Gross Weight does not authorize a truck without another vehicle in tow to exceed the truck's authorized axle weight limits."

1) Your truck displaying more weight at the combined axles than the truck's declared GVWR by the manufacturer -- in my case, 10,000 lbs

There is no law for this issue. Again hotshot haulers would get a ticket at every chicken coop if there was. So just more internet misinformation.

Chris