Toyhauler weights

joebedford wrote:

fly-boy wrote:
With the increased capability of modern day trucks I don't see the weight of the trailer being a big deal at all-
I would buy the trailer I liked and be done with it.

Joking, right?

No kidding. What a bunch of rubbish. Are you saying everyone drives a "new" truck...

Just because trucks are getting more capable doesnt mean the RV industry should get a free pass on its history of poorly documented weights.

fly-boy wrote:
With the increased capability of modern day trucks I don't see the weight of the trailer being a big deal at all-
I would buy the trailer I liked and be done with it. Many of the modern trucks can hook up to a loaded fifth wheel TH and still have a few thousand pounds of capacity in reserve.

Don't get me wrong- the posted weight should be close or why post it at all? I juts don't think it needs to be nearly as big of a concern as it was just a few years ago.

It is a big deal. I'm waiting for a manufacturer to be sued cause someone in a trailer advertised at 12,000 pounds gvw was really 14,000 and caused an accident cause the truck was rated at 12,500. I'm far from the weight police on this site. But when I buy something, I expect the specs to be right.

I never weighed our Voltage 3950 empty because I don't care what it weighs empty. It was just under the 19000lb GVWR loaded without water. I figure I had about 3000lbs of "toys and stuff" so call it 16000lb empty.

It's spec'd at 14200lb UVW so its actual weight is at least 1000lb over factory spec.

fly-boy wrote:
With the increased capability of modern day trucks I don't see the weight of the trailer being a big deal at all-
I would buy the trailer I liked and be done with it.

Joking, right?

With the increased capability of modern day trucks I don't see the weight of the trailer being a big deal at all-
I would buy the trailer I liked and be done with it. Many of the modern trucks can hook up to a loaded fifth wheel TH and still have a few thousand pounds of capacity in reserve.

Don't get me wrong- the posted weight should be close or why post it at all? I juts don't think it needs to be nearly as big of a concern as it was just a few years ago.

Our TH was grossly heavier than yellow sticker and brochure indicated, but that was 9 years ago and I do think recently manufactured THs are much closer to real weights.

My first you hauler was a 2008 27 foot bumper pull advertised as a half ton towable and 5,500 dry (yellow stickers said 5,500). There's no way. I pulled with my 03 Chevy 6.0, my tuned 6.0 powerstroke, my stock 08 Duramax, my buddies built 95 powerstroke, and his built 00 powerstroke. Nothing pulled it well and my Ford 3/4 it squatted like I had 2,000 pounds of rock in the bed. I never had weighed, but the pin weight has to be over 1,500 pounds (the rear wheels were further back than most bumper pulls) and I guess it was 8,000 dry.

My current 13 21 foot is listed at 5,200 dry and I feel that's about right.

There should be a standard where every trailer is weighed by the dealer with all options. Clearly there's not.

We just purchased a new 2016 TH. Actual CAT scaled empty weight was 700 lbs. more than the empty weight specified on the front, right side yellow/white factory sticker. The batteries and propane certainly don't weigh 700 lbs., so not sure why the discrepancy. Like a lot of things in the RV industry, there's just no rhyme or reason, no standard.

Notice a lot of folks use the right, front empty weight sticker (or worse a brochure) as a baseline for their loaded weight guess-timates---not a good idea. Take the time to go to a CAT scale to weigh your rig empty and loaded. Weigh again if you change your load/gear significantly.

FWIW, I was looking at a 2006 WW bumper pull a few years ago. The white sticker in one of the cabinets said the UVW was 4180 lbs. We took it to a CAT scale. Empty weight (no water, no gear) was 5,400 lbs.

I think the manufacture's weight numbers have gotten better. Many dealers will weight them, but some play games. If you are concerned make the sale contingent on the weight numbers and have it weighed at at CAT scale or the dealership might have the portable pads.

WW was notorious for fudging numbers. There are threads all over the internet in regards to WW. Manufacturers are getting better on weights with newer trailers.