Tries to stay away from

tahoemc wrote:

imjustdave wrote:
WOW looks like I should have gotten tires back when I posted this thread.... but we were heavily debating on getting a new trailer. Anyways I lost a tire last Sunday on the way home. I have to say the Marathon tires have held up great and have been well used.
Facts right now,

06 Build date on the Marathon.

Weight on the tires as I stopped at the scales on the way home.
I would say 2/3 full of fresh water. 23-30 gallons, in rear of trailer.
2 days for 2 people of Black water and shower-sink
Maybe 60 gallons total.

Front Driver Front Passenger
2120 2200
Rear Rear
1840 2300

So heaviest tire is 2300 lbs.

Seems my rims white spokes are 2600lbs rated. but they do have a little bit of rust starting.

Not sure how long I will have this trailer but, has anyone had a change in views on tires? Local Goodyear is offering $650 for a set of 5 marathon tires. Looks like they are rated for 2540 lbs At 65MPH. Speed wise I think 70 would be nicer. But 200 lbs doesn't seem like much extra.

Might do what jaycocamprs did up a few posts. LT235/85R16/E BFG

Ideas? buying something this week... even if my job is ending sooner then latter :(
Posted By: P Kennedy on 07/21/14 05:25pm

P Kennedy on 07/21/14 05 wrote:

If I understand your scale results there was a difference of 460 lbs between right and left on the same trailer axle?

I was wondering the same thing:?

So on my 5th wheel on the right side above the axles is the sink, fridge, pantry, bunk area with bedding and the rear access hatch for storage of blocks and what not. On the left side of the unit is some empty storage units, dinnet, couch and the 1 and only slide out. I don't know exactly where the grey and black tanks are but the fresh water is all the way in the rear and to the left.

We were returning home from camping so leftover food, drinks ETC were still there. So the right to left kind of makes sense when you look at all the items. But I was surprised as well.

P Kennedy wrote:
If I understand your scale results there was a difference of 460 lbs between right and left on the same trailer axle?

Correct, the numbers are oriented as if you were looking down from the sky at the 4 tires. Even front to back there was a variation of weight, which I was surprised with.

All the weights were within D range ST tires but not by a lot. Still debating if I want to upgrade to 16 rims or just go the easy way with ST tires. I was planning on upgrading via a new trailer but that is on the back burner now :(


I used a scale on the side of the highway and just moved the truck and trailer around, me and the wife and the 2 dogs were in the truck.

imjustdave wrote:
WOW looks like I should have gotten tires back when I posted this thread.... but we were heavily debating on getting a new trailer. Anyways I lost a tire last Sunday on the way home. I have to say the Marathon tires have held up great and have been well used.
Facts right now,

06 Build date on the Marathon.

Weight on the tires as I stopped at the scales on the way home.
I would say 2/3 full of fresh water. 23-30 gallons, in rear of trailer.
2 days for 2 people of Black water and shower-sink
Maybe 60 gallons total.

Front Driver Front Passenger
2120 2200
Rear Rear
1840 2300

So heaviest tire is 2300 lbs.

Seems my rims white spokes are 2600lbs rated. but they do have a little bit of rust starting.

Not sure how long I will have this trailer but, has anyone had a change in views on tires? Local Goodyear is offering $650 for a set of 5 marathon tires. Looks like they are rated for 2540 lbs At 65MPH. Speed wise I think 70 would be nicer. But 200 lbs doesn't seem like much extra.

Might do what jaycocamprs did up a few posts. LT235/85R16/E BFG

Ideas? buying something this week... even if my job is ending sooner then latter :(
Posted By: P Kennedy on 07/21/14 05:25pm

P Kennedy on 07/21/14 05 wrote:

If I understand your scale results there was a difference of 460 lbs between right and left on the same trailer axle?

I was wondering the same thing:?

Trailer size and available reserve definately has something to do with it. My made in 2005 22ft trailer came with ST205/75R14 Highway master (Greenball) tires made in early 2005. I bought a wheel and carlisle tire as a spare. My trailer is 5200lbs loaded with about 700 on the tongue. So just say 4500lbs on 4 tires is only 1250 per tire rated for 1760. About 71% capacity. Speed limit in CA is 55 for towing, so I never get over 65. I always keep at max pressure.

The first year I lost one tire due to a hazard puncturing the sidewall but it didn't blow out. Replaced with another similar Greenball tire.

Last year I moved one of the the Highway masters to the spare position because of a large sidewall crack.

Last trip out half the tread came off the carlisle but it stayed inflated. No damage to the TT. I half suspect this was due to the trailer leaning heavily on a chock due to the slope of my campsite. The Highway master with the large crack held the last 10 miles home.

So I got 9 years of ouf my China ST tires. They are to the point the rubber is starting to dry rot, and they are getting replaced today before we go on our next trip. At 14" I don't have a lot of options, but at only 70% capacity on the existing tires, there is no need for me to try to go 15" or 16". My limited funds also do not allow me to buy expensive tires, that still recieve complaints.

You can find plenty of complaints about any particular tire if you look, because when someone is unhappy about something they are very vocal vs being satisfied. You hear more about China tires because they are on a lot more trailer. For every one person with trouble with these tires, there are many many other satisfied people that you don't hear from.

Champ198 wrote:
Are there any 15" LT load range E tires out there besides ST tires?

Hard to find! But here are two LT's that people are using.

Goodyear Cargo G 26
Continental Vanco 2
both are rated at 2450 # weight.

Chris

Are there any 15" LT load range E tires out there besides ST tires?

If I understand your scale results there was a difference of 460 lbs between right and left on the same trailer axle?

Comparing ST tire mileage on trailer A with trailer B has no merit. ST tires are not mileage tires. They are usage tires. Because all individually owned trailers have very different usage any comparison would be very difficult to do outside of a bubble environment.

FastEagle

I've had good luck with Carlisle, load range E in your size. Readily available at all Discount Tire stores at a good price. They were $50 less per tire than the Maxxis 8008, and I've seen no evidence to show that the Maxxis is a better tire these days.

Avoid Kenda Klevers. Several years back they had issues with tread separation. I watched mine like a hawk. Figured you only heard from those few with troubles online. Had one come apart anyway. Kenda did nothing to help with replacement cost or the $1500 damage to my rig. Photos clearly showed the tread just came off, like a recap.

I'm not a complainer. Look at my posts. But Kenda had issues, knew they had issues, and did nothing.

Maybe they've made big changes with today's tires.