weight question

NMace wrote:
Yes, I have weighed my rig, I am well under all spec. ALL

But that is not germane.

And you need to reread this thread, some of you were very specific and were right. Those that spoke of 1/2 ton and 20% on the pin are not always right.

I asked the question because I've never seen a 5er with that low of a hitch weight. I just would like for you to verify the mfg's statements.

Just post your weights and show us.

NMace wrote:
I have not argued to pull anything with anything, on the contrary I said deal with specifics.

You guys need to learn to read.

My reading comprehension is quite good. We dealt with specifics...the OP's truck, nothing more, nothing less.... Learn to work off original post and specifics to that. 1/2 ton's have their place, just like 3/4 ton trucks, 1 ton SRW and 1 ton DRW trucks....Trucks have come a long way in the last 3 to 5 years, especially with weight increases in GVWR and GCWR...but anyone who uses the manufacturers "recommended" weights as far as what they can tow in a 5th wheel or a TT, needs to look at the whole picture, which includes, payload, GVWR, RAWR..Also need to know one's weights before even THEY can make a "blanket statement"

Like someone else stated, I wouldn't feel right coming on here telling someone they could tow an rv with a truck (the OP"S), that might cause safety issues, or just wear out the TV prematurely...you may not care about that responsibility, but I and some others do.

Reading comprehension...It really does come in handy, but so does some very simple math and some "common sense"...

I have not argued to pull anything with anything, on the contrary I said deal with specifics.

You guys need to learn to read.

I gladly accept the title of weight police. No one can logically argue that it is OK to exceed the ratings on a truck that the manufacturer says "not to exceed".

I just think hills, wind and safety.......hmmm?

Put the right suspension in a Volkswagen bug and it will tow anything but is it safe?

And don't forget those commercials of trucks towing airplanes etc. but you don't see them pulling into a park. :h

NMace wrote:
Yes, I have weighed my rig, I am well under all spec. ALL

But that is not germane.

And you need to reread this thread, some of you were very specific and were right. Those that spoke of 1/2 ton and 20% on the pin are not always right.

How do you figure knowing your weights isn't "germane"??

If I may be so bold as to ask: What are your CAT scales weights, ie steer axle, drive axle weight of the truck with hitch, full tank of fuel, all family and pets whatever in the truck..Then what is weight with 5er attached, ie, steer axle, then, drive axle weight then...Total weight of combo? pin weight "guesstimation"? Just curious, most would share to prove out facts over assumptions.

Most in here think weights are "germane", especially when someone asked about a specific weight 5er and a specific truck...which we got....Same for a 3/4 ton, 1 ton SRW or 1 ton DRW truck...oops, forgot those numbers don't mean anything any more...my bad...:S

Yes, I have weighed my rig, I am well under all spec. ALL

But that is not germane.

And you need to reread this thread, some of you were very specific and were right. Those that spoke of 1/2 ton and 20% on the pin are not always right.

I'm not sure why there is so much emotion attached to this subject. The facts are really easy to discover and interpret. It seems that people who own trucks that are too light duty for their towables get upset when someone like the OP asks about vehicle weight.

I understand that it is upsetting when you are reminded that the manufacturer of your truck set weight limits that you are exceeding. I know I was upset when I learned that my Ford F150's MGWR was being exceeded by my TT's tongue weight. I towed for all of last summer without knowing this. Everything was fine. Does that mean that Ford is full of baloney with its spec? I really don't think so. It is to the manufacturer's advantage to claim the highest possible GVWR. So, I assume there is a good reason for the numbers they put on my sticker.

This fall we traded the 6-month-old F150 for a new F350 because I don't want to discover why Ford set those limits. Ironically, last month we decided to trade from the 27 ft 7,000 lb (loaded) TT to a 36ft 13,000 lb (loaded) 5'er. This time, having learned my lesson, I made sure that the new fiver was ok to tow with our truck.

So, if you choose to exceed the factory numbers for your truck, that is absolutely your decision. However, you may want to consider whether you should suggest towing over weight to someone considering a truck or RV purchase. The so-called "weight police" seem to me to be people who want to help newbies make informed decisions about what they are contemplating buying.

Let's face it, you could go decades with no issues towing 1,000 lbs overweight. Or, in an emergency situation, the overloaded truck might fail at a time when you need it most. Again, your choice; but consider telling others to do the same. Do you want to take that responsibility?

avvidclif1 wrote:

NMace wrote:
I was adressing those that made blanket statements like:

1/2 tons are not setup for 5ers

20% of the weight will be on the pin

Few 5ers are 1/2 ton towable

You are in 3/4 ton territory

Those are not facts. My only point.

I'll ask again, Have you weighed your rig?

I followed your lead and asked him the same question:)

NMace wrote:
I was adressing those that made blanket statements like:

1/2 tons are not setup for 5ers

20% of the weight will be on the pin

Few 5ers are 1/2 ton towable

You are in 3/4 ton territory

Those are not facts. My only point.

I'll ask again, Have you weighed your rig?