411 Walnut St "residents" ineligible to vote?

The push to purge the rolls of voters will continue. The fewer people that actually vote, the less money that has to be spent to campaign and the more likely incumbents will be re-elected.

There is an issue in retirement heavy states like Florida and Texas with people moving to the state, and not de-registering to vote in their old state. A few full-timers I know from Oregon before moving their domicile to Texas received an Oregon ballot in the mail in 2016.

Back when I was in the Navy for 20 years, many of my peers used mail services in Florida and Texas as their official residence. Because there were no longer family members left in their hometowns. I'm suspect a lot of the longer serving or career members of the military do that today.

One way that Escapee's has dealt with the issue on the Texas state level is to tie the full-time traveling RV'er to the way the military servicemen and women from Texas are treated.

The original bill a couple years back about in-state vehicle inspection requirements would have required more servicemen/women from Texas to return to the state within a 60 day period to have their vehicles inspected and registration renewed than RV'ers.

I don't know where it will end as long as each state and county keeps their own records on their own systems. A lot of people don't like a national identity card, but so many of our current hot-button issues like identity to vote, identity to work, etc - could be solved with a national identity card.

Maybe I'm seeing things differently, but I think it is important to vote in the local elections in addition to the national elections. For example, many of the reasons people choose Florida, Texas, and South Dakota for domicile are due to state laws, which are determined by state politicians. Saying you're not affected by local politics is just not true. What if Florida politicians decided to start charging a state income tax?

Rob

rockhillmanor wrote:

TechWriter wrote:

rockhillmanor wrote:
When I went to get my FL plates the DMV accepted a well know forwarding address for full timers AND at the same time asked me if I wanted to also register to vote!!

But my bank back home will NOT accept this address.

Did you try using

a "contact" person

instead?

I tried doing it on line and it referred me to the 800 number which is where it was denied after they entered the address.

Do you mean calling someone at my local bank? Have you had that work?

If your financial institution is not allowing your mail forwarding address as part of the Patriot Act CIP (Customer Identification Program) requirements, then you should be able to use a next of kin or a contact person's address instead. (See page 480, bottom right column of CFR-2010.)

It's probably best that you actually talk to someone at the financial institution. You may have to ask for a Compliance Officer or someone in the Compliance Department -- folks that deal with the volumes of banking rules.

TechWriter wrote:

rockhillmanor wrote:
When I went to get my FL plates the DMV accepted a well know forwarding address for full timers AND at the same time asked me if I wanted to also register to vote!!

But my bank back home will NOT accept this address.

Did you try using

a "contact" person

instead?

I tried doing it on line and it referred me to the 800 number which is where it was denied after they entered the address.

Do you mean calling someone at my local bank? Have you had that work?

TechWriter wrote:

monkey44 wrote:

We applaud Scott and his team at SBI for taking this on -- we all have a right to vote no matter where we sit overnight.

No you don't.

We'll see - no where on that document you sent does it require a voter to be in-state to vote. And for the most part, many of the folks that use SBI can and do claim Florida as residency, legally. Although, it appears, once again, someone "Clay County" seems to feel it can circumvent it.

I personally have no dog in this fight, but own a residence (Home) in Florida as well as use SBI for mail forwarding, so do understand SBI's position and the residents as well.

Seems like every time we turn around now someone's pulling out a lawyer to fight a battle that need not be fought --- And spending $$$ for small (if any) gain.

Every so often I see ads for check printing companies that want to sell checks to you directly. I haven't tried to buy from them, yet, but I don't think you HAVE to get your checks from your bank.

rockhillmanor wrote:
When I went to get my FL plates the DMV accepted a well know forwarding address for full timers AND at the same time asked me if I wanted to also register to vote!!

But my bank back home will NOT accept this address.

Did you try using a "contact" person instead?

When I went to get my FL plates the DMV accepted a well know forwarding address for full timers AND at the same time asked me if I wanted to also register to vote!!

But my bank back home will NOT accept this address. I can have my statements mailed there but they will not let me order checks using that address. (Thanks to all that voted that the patriot be renewed):R

I will note that all forwarding mail outfits used for full timers are on the patriot act data base as not an actual address. The days of claiming domicile are slowing coming to an end they are on to everyone doing it.

The one that is not in the patriot act data base is USPS. That still comes up as a legit address. This is NOT the post office it is a mail service.That said I have bought property here and still maintain my postal service as a mailing address.

I don't believe full timers or snow birds that do NOT 'live permanently" in the state should be able to vote. Come on can you really honestly say that you KNOW the people running and what they are running for, AND the real issues in these small towns?

And no, when I got my FL plates and the DMV asked me if I also wanted to register to vote I said no.

You ignored my word 'or' in the sentence.

1972 in your timeline link captures my sentiments. Reside in a jurisdiction for an extended period of time.

Mike

Walaby wrote:
. . . there is a very real possibility of having a significant amount of voters who can influence local elections and issues, without having any knowledge or any insight into the candidates or issues.

That time has already come and gone.

Walaby wrote:

I do agree something has to be done to ensure full timers can vote in national elections, but I think one should own property, or have a physical residence in the community in order to vote in the local elections.

See 1792 - 1856 in Timeline of voting rights.