park wifi woes

Not all CGs have access to broadband access like FIOS,cable,T1 or T3. My guess is that only CGs near urban areas have that kind of access, with many rural CGs might be lucky to have DSL available.

It is unreasonable to expect the more rural CGs to have the kind of access that you might have at home.

If you need broadband service 24/7 while RVing then you will need to stay in those parks that have the service you want near urban areas or provide your own internet service.

and to Quote ME AGAIN:
To reject change will only serve to get you run-over when it happens, which is inevitable. We spend 7 - 8 months in our rig. I want broadband access with no limits. I'll be perfectly willing to pay for the service. Campgrounds need to move into the 21st century and make it happen. "

paulcardoza wrote:
to Quote ME!
How do these examples differ significantly from the typical CG with 100-200 sites? ASSUMING that they have access to broadband service, of course. The CG we frequent has access to BOTH high speed cable and Fios service. They also have a terrific wifi network throughout the CG where you can easily get a strong wifi signal ANYWHERE. HOWEVER, they offer only TengoInternet over wifi, which is legendary for their dreadful service. The obviously spent a fortune on infrastructure, but are using dime-store service! Hook up a 500/100 broadband pipe and start charging for the service, with a login assigned to peeps who pay. If half the sites (100) sign up for half the days each month, cost would be 33 cents per day. The big chunk of $$$$ has already been spent on the park infrastructure!

Bumpyroad wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
Another naysayer, who clearly won;t take the time to read, before posting how impossible change is..... Be realistic Bumpy and maybe you'll see what is possible these days. Also, please read my previous posts so you actually understand what my expectations are, as far as cost goes.... :R

Bumpyroad wrote:
how do you propose that these campgrounds size the wifi installation? do they go to the extent that each and every site can stream netflix 24/7/365 and that "commercial" users are satisfied. then the cost for a non-user or minimal user would be out of sight.
the solution is simple. buy your own hot spot. don't expect that $17.00 a day campground to provide it.
bumpy

to quote you
"Unfortunately, times are changing rapidly. Whether we like it or not, the expectations for Internet access are not what they were, even just a few years ago. High speed broadband access is widely available. The ability to stream and download large amounts of data is looked at as completely normal. Music, Movies, TV, etc., etc., etc.... I can't remember the last time I turned on a radio or played a CD!

Campgrounds remain woefully behind this curve. We can hem & haw about the reasons, the costs or whatever, but at some point the situation needs to change. YES, it may drive up the cost of staying in a private campground and certainly there will be as many folks angry over it as there are elated!

To reject change will only serve to get you run-over when it happens, which is inevitable. We spend 7 - 8 months in our rig. I want broadband access with no limits. I'll be perfectly willing to pay for the service. Campgrounds need to move into the 21st century and make it happen. "

why should campgrounds spend the extra money required for meeting your specific needs. RoyB provided one way out for you. you say you are willing to pay for the wifi, so do it. don't expect all campgrounds to have elaborate systems so that you can be satisfied. they are in the business to cater to their clientele. not to the person demanding perfect and massive service.
you want unlimited broadband service. so spend the $69 on a hot spot and don't drive the costs of our camping upward.

bumpy

to Quote ME!
How do these examples differ significantly from the typical CG with 100-200 sites? ASSUMING that they have access to broadband service, of course. The CG we frequent has access to BOTH high speed cable and Fios service. They also have a terrific wifi network throughout the CG where you can easily get a strong wifi signal ANYWHERE. HOWEVER, they offer only TengoInternet over wifi, which is legendary for their dreadful service. The obviously spent a fortune on infrastructure, but are using dime-store service! Hook up a 500/100 broadband pipe and start charging for the service, with a login assigned to peeps who pay. If half the sites (100) sign up for half the days each month, cost would be 33 cents per day. The big chunk of $$$$ has already been spent on the park infrastructure!

Bumpyroad wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
Another naysayer, who clearly won;t take the time to read, before posting how impossible change is..... Be realistic Bumpy and maybe you'll see what is possible these days. Also, please read my previous posts so you actually understand what my expectations are, as far as cost goes.... :R

Bumpyroad wrote:
how do you propose that these campgrounds size the wifi installation? do they go to the extent that each and every site can stream netflix 24/7/365 and that "commercial" users are satisfied. then the cost for a non-user or minimal user would be out of sight.
the solution is simple. buy your own hot spot. don't expect that $17.00 a day campground to provide it.
bumpy

to quote you
"Unfortunately, times are changing rapidly. Whether we like it or not, the expectations for Internet access are not what they were, even just a few years ago. High speed broadband access is widely available. The ability to stream and download large amounts of data is looked at as completely normal. Music, Movies, TV, etc., etc., etc.... I can't remember the last time I turned on a radio or played a CD!

Campgrounds remain woefully behind this curve. We can hem & haw about the reasons, the costs or whatever, but at some point the situation needs to change. YES, it may drive up the cost of staying in a private campground and certainly there will be as many folks angry over it as there are elated!

To reject change will only serve to get you run-over when it happens, which is inevitable. We spend 7 - 8 months in our rig. I want broadband access with no limits. I'll be perfectly willing to pay for the service. Campgrounds need to move into the 21st century and make it happen. "

why should campgrounds spend the extra money required for meeting your specific needs. RoyB provided one way out for you. you say you are willing to pay for the wifi, so do it. don't expect all campgrounds to have elaborate systems so that you can be satisfied. they are in the business to cater to their clientele. not to the person demanding perfect and massive service.
you want unlimited broadband service. so spend the $69 on a hot spot and don't drive the costs of our camping upward.

bumpy

paulcardoza wrote:
Another naysayer, who clearly won;t take the time to read, before posting how impossible change is..... Be realistic Bumpy and maybe you'll see what is possible these days. Also, please read my previous posts so you actually understand what my expectations are, as far as cost goes.... :R

Bumpyroad wrote:
how do you propose that these campgrounds size the wifi installation? do they go to the extent that each and every site can stream netflix 24/7/365 and that "commercial" users are satisfied. then the cost for a non-user or minimal user would be out of sight.
the solution is simple. buy your own hot spot. don't expect that $17.00 a day campground to provide it.
bumpy

to quote you
"Unfortunately, times are changing rapidly. Whether we like it or not, the expectations for Internet access are not what they were, even just a few years ago. High speed broadband access is widely available. The ability to stream and download large amounts of data is looked at as completely normal. Music, Movies, TV, etc., etc., etc.... I can't remember the last time I turned on a radio or played a CD!

Campgrounds remain woefully behind this curve. We can hem & haw about the reasons, the costs or whatever, but at some point the situation needs to change. YES, it may drive up the cost of staying in a private campground and certainly there will be as many folks angry over it as there are elated!

To reject change will only serve to get you run-over when it happens, which is inevitable. We spend 7 - 8 months in our rig. I want broadband access with no limits. I'll be perfectly willing to pay for the service. Campgrounds need to move into the 21st century and make it happen. "

why should campgrounds spend the extra money required for meeting your specific needs. RoyB provided one way out for you. you say you are willing to pay for the wifi, so do it. don't expect all campgrounds to have elaborate systems so that you can be satisfied. they are in the business to cater to their clientele. not to the person demanding perfect and massive service.
you want unlimited broadband service. so spend the $69 on a hot spot and don't drive the costs of our camping upward.

bumpy

Another naysayer, who clearly won;t take the time to read, before posting how impossible change is..... Be realistic Bumpy and maybe you'll see what is possible these days. Also, please read my previous posts so you actually understand what my expectations are, as far as cost goes.... :R

Bumpyroad wrote:
how do you propose that these campgrounds size the wifi installation? do they go to the extent that each and every site can stream netflix 24/7/365 and that "commercial" users are satisfied. then the cost for a non-user or minimal user would be out of sight.
the solution is simple. buy your own hot spot. don't expect that $17.00 a day campground to provide it.
bumpy

how do you propose that these campgrounds size the wifi installation? do they go to the extent that each and every site can stream netflix 24/7/365 and that "commercial" users are satisfied. then the cost for a non-user or minimal user would be out of sight.
the solution is simple. buy your own hot spot. don't expect that $17.00 a day campground to provide it.
bumpy

@HappyKayakers ---

Maybe you should actually read my posts before stabbing at me with incorrect information. I have said several times in this thread that I would GLADLY PAY for true broadband access at a CG. As others have said, this is a fulltimers forum. We live in our coach for 8 months of the year. There's nothing sad about wanting full access, for those of us who call our RV home. Big difference from the family who comes in on Friday evening and leaves on Sunday morning.

It's too bad that so many people are so anxious to post their opinions, but don't take a few minutes to actually bring themselves up to speed on the contents of the thread first. :R

HappyKayakers wrote:


So, the campgrounds should subsidize Internet access for large families or people running online businesses from their RVs?

If you absolutely need more data each month, you always have the option of paying for more. The plan I have for my aircard is 5GB per month. I always have the option of going over that limit and paying extra.

BTW, I really like the previous poster's pay phone analogy. Seems to be spot on. Before everyone carried their own cell phones, pay phones were a way of life. Now that everyone can carry their own hotspot, free wifi will begin to disappear.

runner_one wrote:
My wife and I support our selves with telecommute jobs. I work for two companies, one in the US and one in the UK, and my wife works for one in the US. Because I work for companies across 6 time zones I am on call 24/7 so I must be able to set down at the computer and just have it work every time. Although I have a Verizon hotspot for back-up I can not remain in a RV park for more than a few days that doesn't have reliable WI-FI. Also because of my background in networking I often trade work on campground wifi for lot rent. I have upgraded many campgrounds and received many free nights in my travels.

I would think that since wifi is so important to you, you would use your own hotspot and "rely" on campground wifi as the back up. I mean wouldn't it even be a business expense that you could write off?
bumpy

rockhillmanor wrote:
Pretty sad that's it's come down to the fact that now a 'camping experience with the family' is so centered around having free perfect high speed internet access. What's the point of even going to a CG?

Stay at home and have all the family members in different rooms using your residential high speed internet, problem solved.

As others have said this is a Full Timing forum. But in my case as a full timer 24/7 high speed internet is not a needed but required. My wife and I support our selves with telecommute jobs. I work for two companies, one in the US and one in the UK, and my wife works for one in the US. Because I work for companies across 6 time zones I am on call 24/7 so I must be able to set down at the computer and just have it work every time. Although I have a Verizon hotspot for back-up I can not remain in a RV park for more than a few days that doesn't have reliable WI-FI. Also because of my background in networking I often trade work on campground wifi for lot rent. I have upgraded many campgrounds and received many free nights in my travels.

Dutch_12078 wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

Dutch_12078 wrote:

rockhillmanor wrote:
Pretty sad that's it's come down to the fact that now a 'camping experience with the family' is so centered around having free perfect high speed internet access. What's the point of even going to a CG?

Stay at home and have all the family members in different rooms using your residential high speed internet, problem solved.

This is the "Full-time RVing" forum. Many of us are "home" when we're in a campground.

I have to pay for wifi at my sticks and bricks "home". why shouldn't full timers?
bumpy

I don't object to paying for good WiFi service. I do object to paying for the abysmal excuse for it though, that some campgrounds provide, regardless of whether it's included in my site rent or charged as an extra. There is no "free" WiFi at any campground I've ever been to.

you must have misunderstood as to who/where I thought you should pay for WiFi service. if it is important to you, necessary in your work, for adequate security, just spring the $60 a month and have it. don't come on here and whine that the campground that you pay $17.00 a night for doesn't have a good signal.
JMHO
bumpy