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JaxDad wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
dedmiston wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
Bear sprays in larger containers are OK in Canada, sprays for use against humans like Mace are not.
Nope. This was evidently the bad kind. Lesson learned. I'll be a better guest next time.
It's kind of an odd distinction, I'm sure bear spray would work very nicely on humans.
It’s not an ‘odd’ distinction, it’s a legal distinction. Bear or wasp spray is a common product for a legitimate innocuous use. Pepper spray is an offensive weapon and illegal in Canada.
There’s lots of such quirks in Canadian criminal law. It’s mostly based on intent.
Understood but it has more to do with the type of container than the contents. If it will stop a bear, it will do a number on a human.wilber1 wrote:
dedmiston wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
Bear sprays in larger containers are OK in Canada, sprays for use against humans like Mace are not.
Nope. This was evidently the bad kind. Lesson learned. I'll be a better guest next time.
It's kind of an odd distinction, I'm sure bear spray would work very nicely on humans.
It’s not an ‘odd’ distinction, it’s a legal distinction. Bear or wasp spray is a common product for a legitimate innocuous use. Pepper spray is an offensive weapon and illegal in Canada.
There’s lots of such quirks in Canadian criminal law. It’s mostly based on intent.- Life must be “interesting” in Derby Line VT & Stanstead QB where the border runs through buildings.
The Only Wall Between These Border Towns Is a Row of Potted Plants 
AND JUST LIKE THAT; PEOPLE WANT BORDERS AGAIN! EVEN THE CANADIANS!- Wasp spray works wonders and is not illegal.
Gary dedmiston wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
Bear sprays in larger containers are OK in Canada, sprays for use against humans like Mace are not.
Nope. This was evidently the bad kind. Lesson learned. I'll be a better guest next time.
It's kind of an odd distinction, I'm sure bear spray would work very nicely on humans.wilber1 wrote:
Bear sprays in larger containers are OK in Canada, sprays for use against humans like Mace are not.
Nope. This was evidently the bad kind. Lesson learned. I'll be a better guest next time.- Bear sprays in larger containers are OK in Canada, sprays for use against humans like Mace are not.
- That's really interesting.
I had a slightly different mental experience. They asked me about guns in so many different ways and I had honestly answered "no" every time. By the time they got to the end and said "pepper spray", I reflexively said "no", even though there was a little canister poking out of my dashboard. It never occurred to me that it wasn't allowed in CA, but I secured it after that exchange.
It's funny though that their questioning had mentally preprogrammed me to keep saying "no" because I believed I didn't have anything objectionable with me. Usually you know in advance which side of the line of truth you'll be standing on and you prepare yourself accordingly. I thought that I was on the good side of the line until the line moved.
Anyway, the agents up there were very good to us. Same on the U.S. side, although they made me get ride of a little firewood. Fair enough.
The question that stuck me as odd on the U.S. side was about liquor. We were asked about that every time we crossed and I pointed to the cooler with some beer in it in the bed of the pickup right behind me. I still don't get it though. Liquor was so much more expensive up in Ontario. Who would buy the expensive stuff up there and try to smuggle it back across to the U.S. where it's cheaper? - I know a couple of border agents on both sides of the border quite well by now, some weeks I see them several times, and small aircraft are handled far differently than vehicular traffic is.
I asked about that very concept of multiple terms meaning the same thing being used in multiple questions. I was fascinated by the answer. It turns out tha style of questioning was developed by behavioural scientists.
The first reason is they use certain questions more to gauge our reactions to them than because they want a certain answer. Questions like “Do you have any guns, knives, hand grenades or bazookas?” Will illicit a laugh from honest innocent people because they take it as a joke. But a nervous criminal with a guilty conscience may react very differently.
The second reason though made me really wonder. I was told II would be surprised at how many people say “no” to guns and a subsequent search turns up a rifle or shotgun and the people say “you only asked about guns, not rifles”. By using every possible term a sharp lawyer can’t later say ‘my client just didn’t understand the question’.
