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Jul 10, 2017

2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta

Hi everyone! My husband and I are in the market for a class A motorhome (first-time buyers) and will be transitioning into full-timing. Our budget is between $30-40k and we're currently looking at two privately sold options: a 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay and a 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta.

The Tiffin seems like a higher quality option in every way, with more amenities, but it's age causes us to lean more toward the Fleetwood. Both are around the same price. What would you say is the better option? Older, but higher quality, or younger with lower quality?

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My husband and I are in the market for a class A motorhome (first-time buyers) and will be transitioning into full-timing. Our budget is between $30-40k and we're currently looking at two privately sold options: a 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay and a 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta.

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Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708410"},"body":"We're on our way home now. Wow- what a difference compared to the Fiesta! It felt more like a house. Great condition, too. Now the question is whether or not we're getting the best deal at $38k for the rig. If anyone has an opinion on this, we'd love to hear it. The NADA average, without any additional specs, is around $40k. The seller added basically All specs and the value shot up to $50k,but I don't know if that's accurate since he checked all of the options that applied (even though it says to only check options that are in addition to standard equipment).

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The Fiesta was the low end MH with true basement storage and 1.5\" walls. The Fiesta replaced the Flair, which was a Bounder without the standard extras. The Fiesta in that age is a true MH/basement unit. All Fleetwood's have the same construction on the house side and are very solid. If they both have the same equipment, dual pane windows recliner vs. fixed chair, sat. dish. than choose the one you want. Norco refridagator is a problem unit, but when installed correctly will work better than a Dometic. Workhorse chassis, brakes, brakes, brakes. If you are mechanical and know something about disk brakes, they should not be a problem. It is just like buying a house, except it moves. Verify that everything does work, do not take anyone's word for it. If it is plugged in, ask them to unplug it and start the gen and start the ACs, then do the walk through for everything operating as it should. Test everything at least once. If the ref is not cold stick around at least 2 hours to see if it is cooling, if it has an ice maker test to see it does operate. Does the water heater work? Slides operate smoothly and seal both extended and stored. Leveling system really level? If you are able get on the roof to check things out, bring a creeper to get underneath to just look on things, ask about anything you think is unusual. Does the entertainment systems work, test all.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-11T11:14:15.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-11T11:14:15.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":561},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708409","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:2207":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2207","uid":2207,"login":"Janss","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-04-29T17:06:41.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2207"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708408":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708408","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708408":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2207"},"id":"message:2708408","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708408,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708408"},"body":"Well, I just tried and the websites that take a VIN (like NHTSA) didn't find anything for my motorhome's VIN either. So I guess they don't do MHs. But there are several other websites that show the recalls by year/make/model. We did get a carfax when we bought our MH. Keep in mind that a carfax may not show everything covering ownership and repairs. It's just an additional tool to use to make your decision, if desired.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-11T09:15:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-11T09:15:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":562},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708408","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708407":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708407","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708407":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:299963"},"id":"message:2708407","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708407,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708407"},"body":"I can't thank you all enough for your help! We're on our way to see the Tiffin now (3 hr drive). I have the vin but can't seem to find a site that will take it (does carfax work for rvs?). I looked up the model and found 5 possible recalls, the most recent being in 2009. I'll be sure to ask for service records.

We saw the Fiesta yesterday and it was basically falling apart on the inside due to low quality materials. Made us so much more excited to see the Tiffin. :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-11T04:56:07.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-11T04:56:07.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":561},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708407","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708406":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708406","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708406":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2207"},"id":"message:2708406","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708406,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708406"},"body":"Here's a website to look up recalls:
Vehicle Recalls

You can look up the specific coach...manufacturer/model/year.

If you're really interested in a vehicle, ask for the VIN. You might want to do a carfax or some other recall websites ask for VIN. (Do an internet search for \"vehicle recalls\").

I'd probably go with the Tiffin. Wouldn't worry about the 4 year difference. I would prefer quality. Plus I like the description by the owner. Shows pride of ownership and honesty (showed pic of damage). Can't tell about the other owner, since not much description written.

Care and maintenance by owners counts for ALOT. I spent hours with the sellers of the three motorhomes I've purchased over the years. I really find out alot about how much they know about the RV and how they've taken care of it (maintenance records a must for me!).","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-10T22:23:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-10T22:23:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":200},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708406","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:350446":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:350446","uid":350446,"login":"Escapade","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-01-04T05:04:33.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:350446"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708405":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708405","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708405":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:350446"},"id":"message:2708405","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708405,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708405"},"body":"We have a 2004 Allegro Bay 34XB that we bought new. We now have 73000 miles on it. We have had the normal maintenance issues that occur with age. I would want to see detailed records on how it was maintained and all Workhorse recalls. If it has original tires they MUST be replaced. We enjoy ours and plan to keep it more years.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-10T19:34:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-10T19:34:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":151},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708405","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:94823":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:94823","uid":94823,"login":"RVER","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2000-10-29T12:50:53.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:94823"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708404":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708404","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708404":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:94823"},"id":"message:2708404","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708404,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708404"},"body":"To me, NO QUESTION the TIFFEN is a better rig!! I bought a 2003 Newmar in your price range and am very happy with it even though have had some external issues. NONE that cannot be fixed. Fiesta is the low range for Fleetwood, Allegro Bay is a upper echelon Tiffen GAS rig and has a GREAT engine, the Vortec. Check all rubber, for cracks like belts and windshield wipers etc. Tires check their age by looking at the DOT las four numbers in h the row of numbers so if the last 4 numbers is 2415 then the tires were manufactured 24th week of 2015 . Best of luck!!!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-10T19:03:40.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-10T19:03:40.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":151},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708404","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:165491":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:165491","uid":165491,"login":"darsben1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-05-29T12:59:16.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:165491"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708403":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708403","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708403":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:165491"},"id":"message:2708403","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708403,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708403"},"body":"OKay so Ford had the problem with spark plugs but that was cured by 2005 IIRC.
Gm Vortec is probably teamed with an Allison transmission and is supposed to be really reliable
The refrigerator recall involved both Norcold and Dometic Reefers but the recall an still be done at no cost to you if not done already It would probably only affect the 2004 unit but YMMV","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-10T15:19:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-10T15:19:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":153},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708403","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:39262":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:39262","uid":39262,"login":"timmac","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-03-20T17:25:30.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:39262"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708402":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708402","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708402":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:39262"},"id":"message:2708402","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708402,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708402"},"body":"The Fiesta is in the lower grade quality class A for Fleetwood, I have a 08 Bounder which is next grade quality up from the Fiesta and its been a good unit, no issues, the Ford chassis for that year is also good, its the 3 valve V-10 with the 5 speed tow-haul.

The Fiesta or Tiffin does not have full body paint, if I was you I would add about $10 to $15,000 more towards your price and look for a unit with full body paint, but that's me.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-10T12:08:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-10T12:08:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":151},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:2708399/message:2708402","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708401":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2708401","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2708401":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:299963"},"id":"message:2708401","revisionNum":1,"uid":2708401,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2708399"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2708399"},"subject":"Re: 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bay vs. 2008 Fleetwood Fiesta","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2708401"},"body":"Thank you so much for the reply! Here are the links for them both, but I'll also try to list what I know underneath so that you don't have to go to these if you don't want to:

https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2004-Tiffin-Motorhomes-ALLEGRO-BAY-37DB-122523942

https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2008-Fleetwood-FIESTA-34B-122546573

The Tiffin has a GM vortec 8100 motor (50000 miles) on a custom workhorse chassis (gas), Onan 7k generator, washer/dryer, large bath/shower, granite surfaces, leather interior, newer tires, towing package, rear camera, hydraulic leveling, satellite wired, DVD, vcr, day/night shades, power vents, new sharp convection oven, dual ac with furnace and heat pumps, stainless side by side fridge with ice maker, queen bedroom, queen folding sleeper sofa, LCD flat tvs front and rear, cold weather package, bedroom and living room slideouts.

The Fleetwood has Ford Triton / V10 engine (gas), 35000 miles, and all other specs I was able to find here https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2008-fleetwood-fiesta-class-a-floorplan-34b-tr46 but weren't listed on the page itself. We're going to see this one today and should know more after that.

As far as recalls go - is there a simple portal we can use to find that stuff out about a particular rig? 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