california emissions

My 07 does not have a sticker for California on it, and was bought out of state. DMV did the inspection, did not check the CA compliant, and I was allowed to register it and walked out with the plates.

I'm truly sorry that I've hijacked this post. I did not intend for this to happen...however, since it has....

Falconman, thanks for your replies, but once again I must emphasize that the issue is NOT about smog testing! It is about the engine being in compliance with California Air Resource Board's (CARB) requirements.

I have had the motor home inspected at the DMV in Bakersfield and the inspector filled out a form that had to be sent to the Sacramento DMV. This was done; however, upon reading my copy of the form later, I noticed that the inspector checked off an inspection item marked: Conforms to US EPA standards. Directly below this and not checked off was: Conforms to US EPA and California standards.

I have contacted Cummins and they have provided me with a copy of the emission certificate (with my engine's serial number on it) and was informed that since Jan 2012 all Cummins engines that are supplied for motor home usage, comply with 50 state emission standards.

So, Monday I will take the certificate (and all other paperwork) BACK to the local DMV and give it a shot once more.

Again, I apologize to the OP for hijacking his post.

Ron

lanerd wrote:
Having a smog test is NOT the issue! As mentioned previously, the mh is EXEMPT from smog testing as are all dp mh's over 14,000 lbs.

We don't have a "CARB TAG". The engine emission label has on it: "EPA CARB", but we're not sure if that is sufficient or not. We have taken a picture of the label and will be going back to the DMV again tomorrow with the picture and see if this will do it. I'm sure they're gonna say: " you gotta bring the mh to us to inspect ourselves". We'll see.

The ISSUE is: the engine has to be California Emission Certified by the manufacture and they have to provide a label on the engine that signifies such. We have found the label, but due to the almost inaccessible placement of it, it's almost unreadable. We may have to contact Cummins (or Freightliner) and see if we can get a duplicate label.

The inspector in Bakersfield DID NOT open the engine hatch to look at this label and as such probably did not certify (on the inspection form) it as meeting the CARB standards; hence, now the requirement for an DMV or LEO to physically inspect it "again"!

On top of everything, the DMV double charged us the registration fees and now we are trying (for the past two months) to get the $1800 refunded to us.

Totally frustrated over this whole ordeal.

Ron

Take a look at this wikipedia page I see your motorhome is a 2013. That first paragraphs describes other states that have adopted the California standard for emissions and it says the are all considered "CARB" states. It says started with the 2011 model year vehicles Oregon was a CARB state. So it sounds like your label is in fact saying your DP meets CARB standards for Oregon which should be the same as California.

Maybe the answer to your issue with California DMV is in Oregon. You may be able to get something from them indicating the motorhome meets Oregon standards which as of 2011 was the same as California standards.

Hi! Jack!.....:B.....Dennis

Yep, the OP backhoemike noted he got the answer to his question, then the post morphed to lanerd's concern about registration. It probably should have been split off into a new post, but wasn't.

Born To Travel wrote:
Am I missing something here?.. The guy does not want to register it in Ca. He is just passing thru the state to Oregon..

There are two posters here. OP wants to pass thru and 2nd poster asked about registering his MH. Larry

Post has morphed into a discussion about Ianerd's inability to register his MH in CA. The OP was just passing through. At least that is my take on the subject(s).

Am I missing something here?.. The guy does not want to register it in Ca. He is just passing thru the state to Oregon..

I might be missing something here, but, it seems like a lot of discussion about what should be a non issue. The posters, IANERD, profile says he has a 2013 Tiffin Phaeton with a 400hp Cummins. I would think it would be one or two calls to Tiffin and/or Cummins to get documentation that a new MH is 50 state compliant.

Here's the DMV link that indicates diesels over 14k are smog exempt:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm

"Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?

Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:

Hybrid
Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
Diesel powered 1997 year model and older or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs..."