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usersmanual wrote:
MILE HIGH again I ask READ what was wrong in 2001 its since been corrected

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2001 Winnebago questionable roof design ... there was a roof design change in late 2001, when Winnebago started overlapping the fiberglass roof edges under the edge

I don't read any of that stuff you put up because there is no source for the quote. For all I know it come from another forum.

MILE HIGH again I ask READ what was wrong in 2001 its since been corrected

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2001 Winnebago questionable roof design ... there was a roof design change in late 2001, when Winnebago started overlapping the fiberglass roof edges under the edge

Bruce Brown wrote:

Mile High wrote:
I don't understand how that damage (which you have showed many times) is related to the fiberglass roof. Sorry, but fiberglass doesn't leak or a lot of boat manufacturers would have some issues right now :). There are no seams on the roof (it is 1 piece), so it was leaking at one of the seals - actually it looks like the skylight. How can that be blamed on fiberglass, as it would do the same thing with any membrane roof.

It leaks at the channel where the roof meets the sidewall - isn't that obvious? Look at the water staining where the roof and wall meet, it had that on both sides, and with Winnies domed roof it sure can't leak up hill.

Actually no - it's not obvious to me. It looks like it came from the skylight and ran to the sidewall. Regardless, there is no way water can get into that edge seam unless it was already under the fiberglass when it got there. Even if the seal in the channel allowed water to pass, it would have to go uphill to get into the joint between the wall and roof system.

There would have to be 1) 8" of snow on top of an open slide topper or awning, 2) a bad seal in the channel and 3) the weep holes in the channel plugged, for water to back up into that joint the way I'm seeing it.

Perhaps the design of that old Adventurer really was different.

usersmanual wrote:

Bruce Brown wrote:
My case wasn't a friend of a friend, it was my friends and the repair work was done in my garage. The troubling part, as I added above, is they still use the same design today.

Good design or bad, the more people we can let know about the need for regular resealing the better.

If this helps even one Winnie owner who did not know then this whole thread was worth everyones time.

Like I said before, I'm not here to bash, I'm here to inform. And my info is first hand, real world stuff, complete with pictures :B Not just something from your friends cousins uncle that you saw on the internet.

so If one goes out and buys a 350K winni tour diesel pusher it has the exact same roof design and construction as a 2001 adventurer?
or is this just used on cheap entry class gassers?
If the roof deign and construction is this bad why would a outfit like Winnebago continue to use it? seems extremely odd to me but?
On edit here I did some quick research and found this

2001 Winnebago questionable roof design ... there was a roof design change in late 2001, when Winnebago started overlapping the fiberglass roof edges under the edge

I looked further and their basic design is similar but not the same and they have corrected the flaws

Apparently they were still using the same design in 2005, as noted in the link in the earlier post.

I'm thinking us 3 should schedule a trip together and discuss this over some . We may not get anything accomplished but it sure would be a lot more fun. :B:B:B

Mile High wrote:
I don't understand how that damage (which you have showed many times) is related to the fiberglass roof. Sorry, but fiberglass doesn't leak or a lot of boat manufacturers would have some issues right now :). There are no seams on the roof (it is 1 piece), so it was leaking at one of the seals - actually it looks like the skylight. How can that be blamed on fiberglass, as it would do the same thing with any membrane roof.

It leaks at the channel where the roof meets the sidewall - isn't that obvious? Look at the water staining where the roof and wall meet, it had that on both sides, and with Winnies domed roof it sure can't leak up hill.

Mile High wrote:
I don't understand how that damage (which you have showed many times) is related to the fiberglass roof. Sorry, but fiberglass doesn't leak or a lot of boat manufacturers would have some issues right now :). There are no seams on the roof (it is 1 piece), so it was leaking at one of the seals - actually it looks like the skylight. How can that be blamed on fiberglass, as it would do the same thing with any membrane roof.

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2001 Winnebago questionable roof design ... there was a roof design change in late 2001, when Winnebago started overlapping the fiberglass roof edges under the edge

nothing to do with the roof design and was changed as I posted it was the roof joint where it met the sidewall and long since corrected

I don't understand how that damage (which you have showed many times) is related to the fiberglass roof. Sorry, but fiberglass doesn't leak or a lot of boat manufacturers would have some issues right now :). There are no seams on the roof (it is 1 piece), so it was leaking at one of the seals - actually it looks like the skylight. How can that be blamed on fiberglass, as it would do the same thing with any membrane roof.

Bruce Brown wrote:
My case wasn't a friend of a friend, it was my friends and the repair work was done in my garage. The troubling part, as I added above, is they still use the same design today.

Good design or bad, the more people we can let know about the need for regular resealing the better.

If this helps even one Winnie owner who did not know then this whole thread was worth everyones time.

Like I said before, I'm not here to bash, I'm here to inform. And my info is first hand, real world stuff, complete with pictures :B Not just something from your friends cousins uncle that you saw on the internet.

so If one goes out and buys a 350K winni tour diesel pusher it has the exact same roof design and construction as a 2001 adventurer?
or is this just used on cheap entry class gassers?
If the roof deign and construction is this bad why would a outfit like Winnebago continue to use it? seems extremely odd to me but?
On edit here I did some quick research and found this

2001 Winnebago questionable roof design ... there was a roof design change in late 2001, when Winnebago started overlapping the fiberglass roof edges under the edge

I looked further and their basic design is similar but not the same and they have corrected the flaws

My case wasn't a friend of a friend, it was my friends and the repair work was done in my garage. And it wasn't 17 years old at the time - that was back in 2011. The troubling part, as I added above, is they still use the same design today.

Good design or bad, the more people we can let know about the need for regular resealing the better.

If this helps even one Winnie owner who did not know then this whole thread was worth everyones time.

Like I said before, I'm not here to bash, I'm here to inform. And my info is first hand, real world stuff, complete with pictures :B Not just something from your friends cousins uncle that you saw on the internet.

Iam not in the ring of fire guys that will condemn a brand of Mh just because a friend of a friend had trouble with some ole beater MH made 17 years ago
There is not one MH made out there that does not have a problem at one time or another and yes ALL manufacturers have had their share of factory misdeeds
Look at prevost bus convertions in the 2000-2006 era where the roofs leaked
Marathon was charging as much as 62K to repair them or where CC never vented the battry/inverter areas and guys batterys and inverters burnt out due to overheating yadyadayada