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wacdmc
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Jun 27, 2016

Class C weight issue

I had my Thor Chateau 31E weighed yesterday. I had a full 55 gallons of fuel and the 40 gallon fresh tank full. I also had my normal array of camp items (grill, chairs etc.) on board. The front axle weight was fine. However, the rear came in at 10,040. Considering the Michelin, E load tires can handle 2,470 pounds max, I'm overweight by 160 pounds.

How can a brand new Class C be equipped with tires that can't even handle a normal load? I haven't even put clothes or food on board for our upcoming two week trip and I'm already overweight.

Am I over-reacting?

Any suggestions?
  • SoCalDesertRider wrote:
    Definitely don't keep on overloading the tires.

    You may have to up one tire size, which will increase the load rating of the tires. For example, going from 215/85-16E's to 235/85-16E's increases the cumulative (all 4 together) rear tire load capacity by about 1000 lbs.

    if he does this will he still have clearence between duals, need so much so don't rub & stay cool have to breath stock is 225 75 16
  • Mich F wrote:
    What was your total weight - how much weight on the front axle ?
    You're also over your rear axle weight rating by 440# as it sits now.


    Total weight was 14,620. GVWR is 14,500. Front axle was 4,580 so at least that is under.

    It's pretty ridiculous to spend over $80K on a camper that comes equipped with under-rated tires. I'm draining most of the water so I come in just at 14,500 but I'm likely going to still be a bit over-weight.

    This stuff just ticks me off and takes the fun out of RVing...
  • Definitely don't keep on overloading the tires.

    You may have to up one tire size, which will increase the load rating of the tires. For example, going from 215/85-16E's to 235/85-16E's increases the cumulative (all 4 together) rear tire load capacity by about 1000 lbs.
  • What was your total weight - how much weight on the front axle ?
    You're also over your rear axle weight rating by 440# as it sits now.
  • Hi, we also have a 31' Class c with weight problems. We only carry about 5 gallons of fresh water, just enough for the toilet when traveling. We leave most liquids at home, very little food in the refrigerator or freezer. We purchase all our food and drinks when we get where we are going, and then just enough for our stay. We lightened every thing we could in the storage bins. We went to a smaller grill, lighter chairs and carry fewer tools in a lighter tool box. Everything left that weighed much got moved forward as much possible. Now we are just under max gross when fully loaded for travel. Also, if you are coming towards Phoenix you can get a 4 corner weight at the Escapees park in Congress for about $45.00, you schedule with the weigh master via the escapees web site. We carry 80 psi in all tires due to the weight including our spare! We don't have a towed.

    Dave
  • good advice so far from the other replies. Definitely consider the four corner weighing, and checking the GVWR numbers. Are you pulling a toad too? Maybe you can load some items into the toad. When working the numbers be sure to consider the toad too if you have one.
  • Not only are you over tire ratings but I bet you are over your rear GAWR by even more. Check your driver side door panel for axle ratings.

    This is quite common on a longer class C. If you are not going to be dry camping then lose some water. At over 8# per gallon it adds up fast.

    This is the reason that our new C is a Super C. The unit weighs about 21,000# empty but has a 26,000 GVWR. So I'll have plenty of extra capacity.
  • The problem with most 30 something Class C's is that they lack sufficient payload. A band aid solution for you is to dump half, or more, of your fresh water tank and that gets you back to the number but does nothing for all of the additional gear you have yet to load.

    What are the GVWR/payload numbers for your rig? You did not quote the front axle weights but it sounds like you were well over your GVWR of 14,500. If available you may benefit from a four corner weighing enabling you to more efficiently distribute your load. You should {IMHO}, be concerned and hopefully can find ways to reduce your weight.

    Slides and leveling systems are two of the biggest consumers/wastes of your meager payload but there isn't much you can do about them. Learn to to start leaving more gear home and load the heavy stuff as far forward as possible {which can be difficult with a Class C}. Be sure your tires are inflated sufficiently for the load they carry.

    Good luck!

    :C