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gordhog
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Apr 05, 2016

Electric cooling fan on Class C

I currently have a 2011 Jamboree on an E450 chassis. I am interested in replacing the engine driven cooling fan for an electric fan. Removing the OEM fan takes away a horsepower drain to spin it. I have gone to all of the electric fan manufacturers to find a bolt-in replacement. None of them have one for my particular model: 2010 E450 chassis Super Duty with a V10. Doing research shows that the OEM fan is controlled by the ECM. None of the electric fan mfgs. show any compatible set ups for this model.

Any suggestions?

Mike
  • Electric fans do not have the cooling power of an engine driven fan. You run the risk of causing an overheat condition. That's probably why you are not finding anything.
  • I don't see how you gain power overall by going with an electric fan. Rather than having the fan load the engine directly, you have the fan get power from the alternator...which loads the engine down. I would be surprised if there are any measurable net gains.
  • gordhog wrote:
    Removing the OEM fan takes away a horsepower drain to spin it.

    Doing research shows that the OEM fan is controlled by the ECM.

    Any suggestions?



    Suggestions: Yes, give up.

    1) Turning the fan takes horsepower. Whether it comes directly from the end of the crankshaft or indirectly via the alternator makes little difference. The electrical route actually might be a little LESS efficient overall.

    2)If the existing mechanical fan is controlled by the ECM, that means it has an electric clutch somewhere.....which is further evidence that you are wasting your time and energy worrying about is since it consumes near ZERO energy when it is free-wheeling.
  • The fans, engine driven or electric are designed to maintain a temperature range for the engine to operarte properly, changing one for a unit that does not move a volume of air at the same ratio or speed can and probablly will cause damage to the engine components, melting of plastic encased sensors, melting of wiring looms, overheated radiator hoses and coolant sensors, overheated transmission oil, this leads to a premature failure, overheated fuel lines since the fuel that is not used by the injectors is returned to the fuel tank, this will shorten the life of the fuel pump, and last but not least an increase in the amount of heat on the dog house in the cabin.

    This is definitlly not a good idea, we have travelled in our C with the V-10 engine in temperatures of 110 plus in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas without any loss of power pulling the toad, the engine and fans maintained the temperature very stable, even going up hill in some steep grades.

    navegator
  • Nobody has a listing because nobody makes one with the CFM requirements for the V10.
  • navegator wrote:
    The fans, engine driven or electric are designed to maintain a temperature range for the engine to operarte properly, changing one for a unit that does not move a volume of air at the same ratio or speed can and probablly will cause damage to the engine components,


    Prone to some exaggeration are we ?? :)

    Sure if it got hot enough. But the temp gauge should show HOT long before any of that happens, accompanied by a release of steam.
  • The fan load is insignificant to pushing an 18,000 pound box through air at 60 mph. There is no simple magic that will significantly change fuel consumption or horsepower.
  • gordhog wrote:
    I currently have a 2011 Jamboree on an E450 chassis. I am interested in replacing the engine driven cooling fan for an electric fan. Removing the OEM fan takes away a horsepower drain to spin it. I have gone to all of the electric fan manufacturers to find a bolt-in replacement. None of them have one for my particular model: 2010 E450 chassis Super Duty with a V10. Doing research shows that the OEM fan is controlled by the ECM. None of the electric fan mfgs. show any compatible set ups for this model.

    Any suggestions? Mike


    Yea, don't do it.

    If you have ever heard your V10 when the fan clutch kicks in to keep your engine cool you'd understand why you don't want to replace it with an inefficient electric fan. It's set up that way from the factory for a reason.