Is it time to trip

rgatijnet1 wrote:
... This is just what we need, people traveling from infected areas and coming down to my State to bring their infection with them... They are now talking about closing our State border because of these selfish idiots.

Apparently as a Floridian you have no cause for alarm.

Where we are staying the manager is stuck in Canada so her friend came to "watch the resort". Everyone has left or cancelled except for two couples. We were content to have no new arrivals and we are basically self-quarantined. Now the new arrival wanted to bring her son and we said no, then this morning her daughter-in-law dropped off a baby, then the other grandmother stopped by to see the baby, and later the daughter-in-law is coming to pick up the baby. When we confronted her she said she does this every day and we aren't stopping her "and it doesn't matter anyway because Floridians can't catch the virus".

As someone posted earlier, you can't fix stupid even with duct tape.

We reached out to the manager and she says her friend will not be bringing anyone on the property. If she continues we're all leaving.

Dave

If you read the latest news you will also find out about the unintended consequences of a "stay at home" order. It appears that the people of New York do not believe in actually staying at home. To them the stay at home order means to hop on a flight, in great numbers, and go to Florida. This is just what we need, people traveling from infected areas and coming down to my State to bring their infection with them.
We had to close the beaches because the college kids did not have enough sense to stay away from each other. Now we have to deal with a bunch of adults that feel that they know better than the experts. Perhaps these are the parents of the college kids. They are now talking about closing our State border because of these selfish idiots.

It was driven because people are not staying home. People are taking it like vacation, traveling to small towns like Ocean Shores or Chelan. These places don't have the facilities to even care for the residents of these areas. So, if you feel great but actually have the virus, then you go somewhere and get gas or stop at a store, you now possibly infected residents of that area. You go home after your vacation, camp trip, etc. But that town now has to deal with more sick people that would not have gotten sick had you stayed home in the first place. That is why they are urging everyone to stay home as much as possible. If we stop spreading the virus, maybe we can all get back to normal. Did you see as of 3/23 there are now 499 confirmed deaths? That is going up because people are not staying home.

I would also guess that a lot of people that read this RV blog are retired. If you are retired, older, have any kind of compromised immune system, stay home!!

Thermoguy wrote:
Since the original poster's signature was in WA, we should note that the state has closed all state campgrounds, all DNR and Forest Service land to camping. So, I guess the answer is you can't go camping even if you want to.

Stay home, stay safe

This is a bitter pill to get down. This was a late announcement, and we wonder what has driven it. DNR, Federal forest Service land is not that crowded, especially this time of year, something about snow/mud. If you don't live in Washington, you haven't been exposed to our Governor's speeches, we really need some ADULT Super vision in our government...... Hey, if you can get out, it may not be a bad idea.

Since the original poster's signature was in WA, we should note that the state has closed all state campgrounds, all DNR and Forest Service land to camping. So, I guess the answer is you can't go camping even if you want to.

Stay home, stay safe

I have changed my mind , arguments against travel are compelling to me .
Why take a chance of endangering your self or others , stay home , hunker down
and survive

Lets all do our part to shut this virus down so we can all get back to RVing

^ I agree with you on the restarting of the 2 week timeline. I just avoided getting too much into the details because there are many people who are prone to panic over something they really can't control.

If I go camping and I come down with the virus I would drive home. It's a flu like virus, not a heart attack that stops you in your tracks.

As far as all business closing. You do realize that the majority of our population lives paycheck to paycheck. This two or three week shutdown is going to cause a lot of businesses to go under and people to lose their way of life as well as their lodging.

Edit: and to be clear, I and my kids are staying isolated in the house for the 14 days. It's not fun, but it's what we're doing.

The thing you have to think about is stopping the spread. If we all could stop interacting with other people for 2 or so weeks, we could stop the spread. Anyone with the virus would show signs and places that have contaminated surfaces the virus would die. So, every time you interact with someone, you start that 2 week time over. If you go somewhere and you need gas, food, etc, you start that 2 weeks over. By going camping, you think you are getting out and away, but if you have the virus and it starts to show up, what are you going to do? Call the local hospital or medical center? Now you have just opened them up to the virus. Maybe it is a small town or somewhere that can not handle your virus. Why spread it there. You need to stay home and stop interacting with people. If everyone could do this for 2-3 weeks, it would die, show itself on those effected, and we could all get back to normal. That is what our government is trying to do.

Look at Italy, they tried to contain the spread but people continued to go out to eat, they went to the store, the got together for small parties and gatherings. Now look where they are. Stop doing that! stay within your house and stop going anywhere the is not medically necessary. If all businesses would close, we would be much better off.

If I go out I would boondock. I see no more risk to me or anybody else by boondocking than if I stay home.

I already have to fill up with gas. So maybe I have to visit the gas station one more time than normal. Yes technically this is an added risk as I have to use the pump nozzle and the keypad.

I drive out and camp for a week. During this time nobody gets closer than 150 yards from me, probably more like 300 yards. (That seems safer to me).

I drive home and put everything away.

Or I can stay home and possibly have a blood clot that comes up from sitting sedentary at home.

I could have an accident while pulling the trailer

I could accidentally get electrocuted when plugging something in at home. When boondocking I'm on 12V

I could get bitten by a rattle snake.

etc...

All you can do is try to be safe and be aware of what you are touching. Probably by far the best thing you can do is wash your hands before and after touching your face. And wash your hands before you eat. And above all, try to limit going somewhere that causes another person to have to be near you. For exampl, if you need to go to the bank take out a larger amount of money in one trip vs smaller amounts and multiple trips.

rgatijnet1 wrote:
I just picked up an order from Walmart. It was some basic items that we needed and I was able to order everything online. I got an email telling me that my items were ready to pick up. I printed out the receipt with the bar code. Using the Walmart app on my phone, I let them know that I was on my way. I drove to Walmart and followed the signs for pick-up. They had several parking places available for pick up orders and you just sit in your car. Within a minute a girl comes by and, from a distance, she scans my bar code receipt, and confirms who I am. Within 5 minutes a guy comes out with my items, opens the hatchback on my vehicle, places the items inside, and asks me if I want to sign the receipt or that he can sign it for me. I let him sign the acceptance and I am on my way. Total time at Walmart was about 10 minutes and I was never within 6 feet of anyone. By the time I got back home, my receipt for my order and delivery was sent to me by email. Very efficient operation and Walmart is trying to hire more people to handle this part of their business..
While I was doing this I couldn't help but notice that the Walmart parking lot was full. I don't know how many people they were allowing in the store but there is no way that you could be inside that store and maintain a 6 foot buffer. On the news tonight they show what looked like a 50 yard long line of people waiting to get into the local Sam's Club. Don't know how many were small business owners or just private customers. Apparently Sam's Club was adhering to the 50% capacity order as Walmart probably was as well. These are tough times and it really depends on all of us to get past this initial virus hump. Since more tests are being done now, MORE positive test will be showing up in all areas. The best you can do is remain socially distant for a few weeks and let things level off. The sooner that will happen the sooner businesses can get back to somewhat normal operation.
My Son has a 5th Wheel and he is restricted to working from home. he lets his wife and the dogs stay in the house and do their normal activities. He gets up at his normal time, showers and dresses, and goes to work outside in the 5th wheel. He has power, WIFI, and phone, as well as peace and quiet. His commute time has cut back from 45 minutes to 30 seconds. Most RV'rs are resourceful and can figure out a way to safely adapt to these trying times. Stay safe.

Thanks for the info. Our Walmart parking lot was full this morning so came home, Need to set up the call in and start using it. Thanks for the info.