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pnichols
Feb 17, 2015Explorer II
Well folks this is a bit off topic, but hopefully may be of some limited help to the OP.
For comparison purposes this is some of what we got - in no particular order - in a 2005 new-at-the-time Itasca 24 foot Class C for around $53K (not inc. tax) ... I consider this as an "extreme value" Class C. Unfortunately Winnebago has long since quit offering this combination in a small Class C:
- Built on the optional E450 chassis.
- All steel outside storage compartments with outdoor-carpeted bottoms and continuous hinged doors with double latches.
- The coach has seven(7) exterior storage cabinets (not inc the generator and propane cabinets), with one(1) of them being huge and five(5) of them being actually tall enough to store something in. One(1) of the exterior storage cabinets holds all electrical and sewer fittings.
- All interior cabinet drawers have solid wood fronts, steel slides, and positive gravity latches.
- Most interior hidden cabling is wrapped/bundled/protected in flexible cable conduit.
- The toilet has plenty/enough room all around.
- The interior floor's first layer (on the lowest underside facing the road surface) is galvanized steel. There are 2 to 3 other flooring layers on top of that.
- The floors and walls have 2" insulation.
- The ceiling has 3" of insulation.
- All interior cabinet doors are solid wood with magnetic latches.
- The roof is one piece deeply crowned fiberglass with rolled edges the whole length and heavy molded fiberglass seal-caps front and rear. It carries a 10 year warranty.
- The front cab steps are one piece heavy aluminum instead of pretty but flimsy fiberglass.
- The hidden battery compartment under the interior step is completely sealed in steel except for downward facing openings for ventilation and it can hold up to two Group 31 size batteries if desired. This battery compartment can be accessed from the inside if required.
- The furnace has four (4) distributed outlets (in only a 24 foot living area) near the floor where they should be, and each outlet can be rotated through 360 degrees. It's control is digital.
- The air conditioner has seven (7) or eight (8) distributed outlets aimed down from the ceiling as they should be, and each outlet can be opened/closed any amount and can be rotated through 360 degrees. It's control is digital.
- All awning hardware appears to be either aluminum or baked enamel on steel.
- The shower/toilet area has a latched door all it's own. The shower/toilet/sink area as a whole can be blocked off from the rest of the coach area by a long curtain suspended from a continuous track on the ceiling.
- The shower/toilet area door has a 1 inch clearance along it's bottom so that the bathroom fan can still draw air into the bathroom from the rest of the coach area when the shower/toilet area door is closed.
- Very few staples or rivets are used anywhere. Screws (brass or steel) are used just about everywhere.
- All interior cabinets are fastened only to, and directly to, the internal wall aluminum framing.
- The alternator is connected to the house batteries for charging purposes with 6 gauge cabling.
- The coach batteries have a dash mounted starting boost switch.
- The cab radio can be powered via a dash switch from either the starting battery or the dual coach batteries.
- The sewage and electrical cabinets are separate, and completely steel lined to keep road dust/dirt out. The bulky 3 inch diameter sewer hose (30 feet) can be stored completely within the sewage cabinet.
- The cabover bed mattress is very thick and actually comfortable.
- The rear corner bed mattress is very comfortable and we prefer it over our way too expensive ripoff stick house MB mattress.
- There seems to be 110V and 12V receptacles "everywhere" in the interior. The 110V outlets near water are GFI protected.
- Built in charger and rack containing four (4) walkie-talkies are located handy right by the coach exit door.
- Exterior entertainment center with antenna, 110V, and 12V outlets.
- Exterior shower, with a local pump ON/OFF switch for it.
- Two special steel lined long transverse exterior storage cabinets for fishing poles, shovels, etc..
- Automatic coach exterior step.
- Both the cabover bunk and cab driving areas came with block off curtains for cold weather ... one on a continuous track and one secured with snaps.
- The grey and black tanks have through-the-wall capacitive detectors.
- Interior height is 6'8", including the shower.
- Electrically positioned and heater cab mirrors.
- Drivers seat can go all the way back ... not impeded by the dinette.
- Tanks sizes are 29 gal grey, 39 gal black, 45 gal fresh, and 18 gal propane. The grey and black tanks are 12V electrically heated for either drycamping or hookup camping in cold weather.
- Built-in water filter for the galley cold water.
- Interior floor coverings are part vinyl and part carpeting.
- The galley has a double sink and single handle faucet.
- The wheel wells are steel lined.
- The optional wheel liners are chrome.
- The spare tire is mounted up underneath at the rear up out of the way and view between the frame members.
- The stock hardware included a huge lug wrench suitable for all wheels, including the rear duals.
- The coach has a rigid aluminum built-in roof ladder.
- The engine exhausts have steel heat shields between them and the cab area floors.
- All the area under each dinette seat is available for storage.
For comparison purposes this is some of what we got - in no particular order - in a 2005 new-at-the-time Itasca 24 foot Class C for around $53K (not inc. tax) ... I consider this as an "extreme value" Class C. Unfortunately Winnebago has long since quit offering this combination in a small Class C:
- Built on the optional E450 chassis.
- All steel outside storage compartments with outdoor-carpeted bottoms and continuous hinged doors with double latches.
- The coach has seven(7) exterior storage cabinets (not inc the generator and propane cabinets), with one(1) of them being huge and five(5) of them being actually tall enough to store something in. One(1) of the exterior storage cabinets holds all electrical and sewer fittings.
- All interior cabinet drawers have solid wood fronts, steel slides, and positive gravity latches.
- Most interior hidden cabling is wrapped/bundled/protected in flexible cable conduit.
- The toilet has plenty/enough room all around.
- The interior floor's first layer (on the lowest underside facing the road surface) is galvanized steel. There are 2 to 3 other flooring layers on top of that.
- The floors and walls have 2" insulation.
- The ceiling has 3" of insulation.
- All interior cabinet doors are solid wood with magnetic latches.
- The roof is one piece deeply crowned fiberglass with rolled edges the whole length and heavy molded fiberglass seal-caps front and rear. It carries a 10 year warranty.
- The front cab steps are one piece heavy aluminum instead of pretty but flimsy fiberglass.
- The hidden battery compartment under the interior step is completely sealed in steel except for downward facing openings for ventilation and it can hold up to two Group 31 size batteries if desired. This battery compartment can be accessed from the inside if required.
- The furnace has four (4) distributed outlets (in only a 24 foot living area) near the floor where they should be, and each outlet can be rotated through 360 degrees. It's control is digital.
- The air conditioner has seven (7) or eight (8) distributed outlets aimed down from the ceiling as they should be, and each outlet can be opened/closed any amount and can be rotated through 360 degrees. It's control is digital.
- All awning hardware appears to be either aluminum or baked enamel on steel.
- The shower/toilet area has a latched door all it's own. The shower/toilet/sink area as a whole can be blocked off from the rest of the coach area by a long curtain suspended from a continuous track on the ceiling.
- The shower/toilet area door has a 1 inch clearance along it's bottom so that the bathroom fan can still draw air into the bathroom from the rest of the coach area when the shower/toilet area door is closed.
- Very few staples or rivets are used anywhere. Screws (brass or steel) are used just about everywhere.
- All interior cabinets are fastened only to, and directly to, the internal wall aluminum framing.
- The alternator is connected to the house batteries for charging purposes with 6 gauge cabling.
- The coach batteries have a dash mounted starting boost switch.
- The cab radio can be powered via a dash switch from either the starting battery or the dual coach batteries.
- The sewage and electrical cabinets are separate, and completely steel lined to keep road dust/dirt out. The bulky 3 inch diameter sewer hose (30 feet) can be stored completely within the sewage cabinet.
- The cabover bed mattress is very thick and actually comfortable.
- The rear corner bed mattress is very comfortable and we prefer it over our way too expensive ripoff stick house MB mattress.
- There seems to be 110V and 12V receptacles "everywhere" in the interior. The 110V outlets near water are GFI protected.
- Built in charger and rack containing four (4) walkie-talkies are located handy right by the coach exit door.
- Exterior entertainment center with antenna, 110V, and 12V outlets.
- Exterior shower, with a local pump ON/OFF switch for it.
- Two special steel lined long transverse exterior storage cabinets for fishing poles, shovels, etc..
- Automatic coach exterior step.
- Both the cabover bunk and cab driving areas came with block off curtains for cold weather ... one on a continuous track and one secured with snaps.
- The grey and black tanks have through-the-wall capacitive detectors.
- Interior height is 6'8", including the shower.
- Electrically positioned and heater cab mirrors.
- Drivers seat can go all the way back ... not impeded by the dinette.
- Tanks sizes are 29 gal grey, 39 gal black, 45 gal fresh, and 18 gal propane. The grey and black tanks are 12V electrically heated for either drycamping or hookup camping in cold weather.
- Built-in water filter for the galley cold water.
- Interior floor coverings are part vinyl and part carpeting.
- The galley has a double sink and single handle faucet.
- The wheel wells are steel lined.
- The optional wheel liners are chrome.
- The spare tire is mounted up underneath at the rear up out of the way and view between the frame members.
- The stock hardware included a huge lug wrench suitable for all wheels, including the rear duals.
- The coach has a rigid aluminum built-in roof ladder.
- The engine exhausts have steel heat shields between them and the cab area floors.
- All the area under each dinette seat is available for storage.
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