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Executive45
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Sep 23, 2014

LED Mod wih pics

So, it was raining today. I decided to fix one of my overhead florescent fixtures. The ballast had failed and I didn't want to spend the $$ for a new fixture. I purchased a roll of LED's and ends from Amazon for $19.90 including shipping. The roll of LEDs is 16.4 feet long and I used two strips, each 16" long, so I have tons left over. The ends came 10 to a pack so I have 9 left. Here's some pics:


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The install was easy. Remove the plastic cover and the florescent tubes. Turn off power. Remove ballast cover by squeezing and pulling down. Snip the black and white wires and save. Snip all other wires and tube ends and discard. Using the ballast cover allows you to assemble the lights on your workbench. (I originally was going to use four strips but two is more than sufficient.) Measure the length of the LED strip and cut on the mark. Peel the backing off the LED strip and install. (I used double sided tape, cut lengthwise for extra holding power) For the second strip, use one of the 10 connectors. Attach both the red wires from the LED strips to the black wire from the fixture. Attach both the black wires from the LED strips to the white wire from the fixture. Reassemble and turn it on....DONE!

Here's the parts list:
10 Piece LED Strip Connectors
LED strip lights
Class A

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  • ronfisherman's avatar
    ronfisherman
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    Oct 14, 2014
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    bsport wrote:
    Going to replace lights in kitchen, what did you use (cool bright, soft bright)? What is the difference in the amount of light.

    Led's usually come Warm White or Cool White.
    The ones link in first post of this thread are Warm White. Close to a Soft White color.
  • krivanj's avatar
    krivanj
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    Oct 14, 2014
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    Thank you Mr Wizard for the regulator info. Just what I needed!
    We had some LED lights that evidentally fried because the converter made more than 12v (13.3v) so I think this is needed.
  • bsport's avatar
    bsport
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    Oct 14, 2014
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    Going to replace lights in kitchen, what did you use (cool bright, soft bright)? What is the difference in the amount of light.
  • MrWizard's avatar
    MrWizard
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    Oct 09, 2014
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    Something like this



    2.2 amp 12v regulator

    The one amp version will work for the 18 watt fixture

    But the 18" tube , 30 watt fixture will need either the 2.2 amp version
    Or two of the 1 amp version l.p.
    One for each strip
    Technically two strips 10 watts would be 800 milliamps at 12.5v, but at 14+ volts from converter or solar etc..The difference will be absorbed by the regulator, 1 amp 12 volt is 12 watts
    The heavier version regulator is a safety, to keep the regulator from over heating, built in a safety margin and not worry about it
    We off grid most of the time, ,so nighttime and lights are quiet time for us, no generator no solar, strictly battery power 12+ volts
    I'm going to add the regulators but they are not a big worry for me
  • MrWizard's avatar
    MrWizard
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    Oct 09, 2014
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    I thought about soldering when I run out of connectors

    I noticed right away, with the first strip
    That cutting exactly on the marked center, of the copper connector , it came up short when placing it in the connector

    I solved that by cutting it to the outside, leaving all the copper contact area on one end of the strip, none on the other end, long end placed into connector, makes a better, connection
  • ronfisherman's avatar
    ronfisherman
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    Oct 09, 2014
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    MrWizard wrote:

    i think i will need another connector kit

    You could just solder 20 gauge wire to the strips. Works very well after tinning tabs on strips. Then put a piece of shrink over the connections. I originally did my connections with the snap connectors. A few days later some of the strips did not work. Found it was bad connection with tabs. Went to soldering with no more problems.
  • MrWizard's avatar
    MrWizard
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    Oct 09, 2014
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    the two replacement strips in place of the two 9w tubes
    are an almost perfect match,
    same amount of light, but a slight difference in color, not as white
    its a slight shading difference mainly noticed when holding a hand under the different lights and doing a comparison

    on the 30w fixture, same color difference, but two strips are NOT QUITE the same amount of light
    close, but it is s little less, my reflectors are shaped difference and im sure this has some effect
    i'm going to add one more strip to the 30w above my left shoulder , that should be more than equal to the previous amount of light
    I love the lower power drain, 10w vs 30w

    i think i will install 12v regulator chips so that the LEDS are never over driven with too much voltage
    pictures coming soon

    my calculations say the small 18w fixture is now using 7w
    and the 30w fixture is now using 10w, this will go up to 15w when i add the third strip tomorrow
    i want the extra output, as this is the light i sit under when reading a book
    the rest of the 18w and 30w fixtures will be converted with two strips each, like the current configuration

    i think i will need another connector kit
  • MrWizard's avatar
    MrWizard
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    Oct 08, 2014
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    my kit arrived
    i'm going to do a test with two strips( 42 leds ) in the 30w fixture over my desk entertainment area
    and two strips ( 30 leds ) in one of the small bathroom Fl that use the 9w tubes
    yeah i've already measured and started cutting

    my reflectors are shaped different than the ones in Dennis's fixtures
    the center is flat and the bends make the other surfaces almost right angle vertical, aiming the light sideways, i will most likely have to use the flat surface aiming the LEDS straight down

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bsport wrote:
Going to replace lights in kitchen, what did you use (cool bright, soft bright)? What is the difference in the amount of light.

Led's usually come Warm White or Cool White.
The ones link in first post of this thread are Warm White. Close to a Soft White color.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-14T13:47:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-14T13:47:13.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":382},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344209","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"314","rawBody":"
bsport wrote:
Going to replace lights in kitchen, what did you use (cool bright, soft bright)? What is the difference in the amount of light.

Led's usually come Warm White or Cool White.
The ones link in first post of this thread are Warm White. Close to a Soft White color.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344209_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:581":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:581","uid":581,"login":"krivanj","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-04-18T14:22:58.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:581"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344208":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344208","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344208":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:581"},"id":"message:1344208","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344208,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344208"},"body":"Thank you Mr Wizard for the regulator info. Just what I needed!
We had some LED lights that evidentally fried because the converter made more than 12v (13.3v) so I think this is needed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"186","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-14T13:31:03.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-14T13:31:03.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":382},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344208","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"190","rawBody":"Thank you Mr Wizard for the regulator info. Just what I needed!
We had some LED lights that evidentally fried because the converter made more than 12v (13.3v) so I think this is needed.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344208_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:5423":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:5423","uid":5423,"login":"bsport","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-02-04T04:33:35.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:5423"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344207":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344207","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344207":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5423"},"id":"message:1344207","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344207,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344207"},"body":"Going to replace lights in kitchen, what did you use (cool bright, soft bright)? 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2.2 amp 12v regulator

The one amp version will work for the 18 watt fixture

But the 18\" tube , 30 watt fixture will need either the 2.2 amp version
Or two of the 1 amp version l.p.
One for each strip
Technically two strips 10 watts would be 800 milliamps at 12.5v, but at 14+ volts from converter or solar etc..The difference will be absorbed by the regulator, 1 amp 12 volt is 12 watts
The heavier version regulator is a safety, to keep the regulator from over heating, built in a safety margin and not worry about it
We off grid most of the time, ,so nighttime and lights are quiet time for us, no generator no solar, strictly battery power 12+ volts
I'm going to add the regulators but they are not a big worry for me","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-09T16:41:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-09T16:41:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":383},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344206","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1042","rawBody":"Something like this



2.2 amp 12v regulator

The one amp version will work for the 18 watt fixture

But the 18\" tube , 30 watt fixture will need either the 2.2 amp version
Or two of the 1 amp version l.p.
One for each strip
Technically two strips 10 watts would be 800 milliamps at 12.5v, but at 14+ volts from converter or solar etc..The difference will be absorbed by the regulator, 1 amp 12 volt is 12 watts
The heavier version regulator is a safety, to keep the regulator from over heating, built in a safety margin and not worry about it
We off grid most of the time, ,so nighttime and lights are quiet time for us, no generator no solar, strictly battery power 12+ volts
I'm going to add the regulators but they are not a big worry for me","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344206_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344205":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344205","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344205":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:581"},"id":"message:1344205","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344205,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344205"},"body":"Would one of you be so kind as to list what to but for a regulator chip?
Thanks in advance","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"91","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-09T15:30:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-09T15:30:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":382},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344205","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"95","rawBody":"Would one of you be so kind as to list what to but for a regulator chip?
Thanks in advance","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344205_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344204":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344204","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344204":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:3028"},"id":"message:1344204","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344204,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344204"},"body":"The original ones I put in had 4 tabs. That contributed to the connection problems.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"83","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-09T12:21:22.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-09T12:21:22.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":382},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344204","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"83","rawBody":"The original ones I put in had 4 tabs. That contributed to the connection problems.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344204_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344203":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344203","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344203":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:371640"},"id":"message:1344203","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344203,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344203"},"body":"I thought about soldering when I run out of connectors

I noticed right away, with the first strip
That cutting exactly on the marked center, of the copper connector , it came up short when placing it in the connector

I solved that by cutting it to the outside, leaving all the copper contact area on one end of the strip, none on the other end, long end placed into connector, makes a better, connection","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-09T10:51:57.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-09T10:51:57.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":384},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344203","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"430","rawBody":"I thought about soldering when I run out of connectors

I noticed right away, with the first strip
That cutting exactly on the marked center, of the copper connector , it came up short when placing it in the connector

I solved that by cutting it to the outside, leaving all the copper contact area on one end of the strip, none on the other end, long end placed into connector, makes a better, connection","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344203_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344202":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344202","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344202":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:3028"},"id":"message:1344202","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344202,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344202"},"body":"
MrWizard wrote:

i think i will need another connector kit

You could just solder 20 gauge wire to the strips. Works very well after tinning tabs on strips. Then put a piece of shrink over the connections. I originally did my connections with the snap connectors. A few days later some of the strips did not work. Found it was bad connection with tabs. Went to soldering with no more problems.
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MrWizard wrote:

i think i will need another connector kit

You could just solder 20 gauge wire to the strips. Works very well after tinning tabs on strips. Then put a piece of shrink over the connections. I originally did my connections with the snap connectors. A few days later some of the strips did not work. Found it was bad connection with tabs. Went to soldering with no more problems.
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are an almost perfect match,
same amount of light, but a slight difference in color, not as white
its a slight shading difference mainly noticed when holding a hand under the different lights and doing a comparison

on the 30w fixture, same color difference, but two strips are NOT QUITE the same amount of light
close, but it is s little less, my reflectors are shaped difference and im sure this has some effect
i'm going to add one more strip to the 30w above my left shoulder , that should be more than equal to the previous amount of light
I love the lower power drain, 10w vs 30w

i think i will install 12v regulator chips so that the LEDS are never over driven with too much voltage
pictures coming soon

my calculations say the small 18w fixture is now using 7w
and the 30w fixture is now using 10w, this will go up to 15w when i add the third strip tomorrow
i want the extra output, as this is the light i sit under when reading a book
the rest of the 18w and 30w fixtures will be converted with two strips each, like the current configuration

i think i will need another connector kit","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-08T23:25:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-08T23:25:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":382},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344201","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1243","rawBody":"the two replacement strips in place of the two 9w tubes
are an almost perfect match,
same amount of light, but a slight difference in color, not as white
its a slight shading difference mainly noticed when holding a hand under the different lights and doing a comparison

on the 30w fixture, same color difference, but two strips are NOT QUITE the same amount of light
close, but it is s little less, my reflectors are shaped difference and im sure this has some effect
i'm going to add one more strip to the 30w above my left shoulder , that should be more than equal to the previous amount of light
I love the lower power drain, 10w vs 30w

i think i will install 12v regulator chips so that the LEDS are never over driven with too much voltage
pictures coming soon

my calculations say the small 18w fixture is now using 7w
and the 30w fixture is now using 10w, this will go up to 15w when i add the third strip tomorrow
i want the extra output, as this is the light i sit under when reading a book
the rest of the 18w and 30w fixtures will be converted with two strips each, like the current configuration

i think i will need another connector kit","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344201_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344200":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1344200","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1344200":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:371640"},"id":"message:1344200","revisionNum":1,"uid":1344200,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1344187"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1344187"},"subject":"Re: LED Mod wih pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1344200"},"body":"my kit arrived
i'm going to do a test with two strips( 42 leds ) in the 30w fixture over my desk entertainment area
and two strips ( 30 leds ) in one of the small bathroom Fl that use the 9w tubes
yeah i've already measured and started cutting

my reflectors are shaped different than the ones in Dennis's fixtures
the center is flat and the bends make the other surfaces almost right angle vertical, aiming the light sideways, i will most likely have to use the flat surface aiming the LEDS straight down","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-08T16:42:16.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-08T16:42:16.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":384},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1344187/message:1344200","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"535","rawBody":"my kit arrived
i'm going to do a test with two strips( 42 leds ) in the 30w fixture over my desk entertainment area
and two strips ( 30 leds ) in one of the small bathroom Fl that use the 9w tubes
yeah i've already measured and started cutting

my reflectors are shaped different than the ones in Dennis's fixtures
the center is flat and the bends make the other surfaces almost right angle vertical, aiming the light sideways, i will most likely have to use the flat surface aiming the LEDS straight down","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1344200_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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