I'd like to make contact with others who own one of the new (2004, 2005) Pace Arrows so we can share experiences, problems, good things, etc.

We are picking up our new 2004 Pace Arrow this week. We are upgrading from a 35 ft 5th wheel. I am happy, excited, nervous, thrilled, and scared at the same time. I hope we can quickly adjust to the different driving styles required with changing from a towable to a MH. Have you been happy with your Pace Arrow? Which model do you have?K in Texas

I have my 2004 Pace Arrow for 10 months, been across the USA once and put on over 8000 miles. Had some warranty work done, nothing big. Changed a few things inside and outside. Going to Classic Coach Works in Florida this spring to have the lighted mirrored ceiling package put on in the front living/kitchen area. Might have the ceiling fan put on in the bedroom.So far I am very happy with it. This is my 3rd Pace Arrow.email me if you want.

We took delivery of our Pace Arrow on New Year’s Eve, 2003. It’s the 36B floor plan, with cherry stained interior wood. We are very happy with it, and since I’m 6’8” tall, the 7’ ceilings are much appreciated!We’ve put nearly 9,000 miles on it, all here in the West. The powertrain has been solid and impressive. We recently learned that some of the Workhorse chassis built prior to sometime in the spring had been equipped with undersized shocks. Our local Workhorse service center confirmed that our coach had this problem and Workhorse authorized replacement of the front shocks. Have only driven it from the shop to the storage yard, so I don’t yet know how much they have improved the ride and handling.We’ve had some problems, but nothing really serious, although this could have been if I hadn’t noticed it while we were parked. The screws securing many of the storage compartment hinges had been over tightened causing the heads to break off. I noticed that one of the doors was mis-aligned, and when I opened it to see what was wrong, the hinge came completely off. Fortunately this happened when I was holding it and not on the highway at 60MPH.Other problems…Right from day one the automatic leveling system has lost stability, overnight at first, now right away because one of the jacks almost immediately lifts off the ground. It goes into the shop next week and I hope they can fix it this time. Has anyone else had problems with the leveling system? I recently met someone with a 2005 model; it has a different brand of leveling system, not PowerGear. Is this an indication that Fleetwood recognized a problem?When showering, lots of water flows from the backflow prevention valve on the shower faucet hose, regardless of where the shower head is positioned relative to the backflow prevention valve. The dealer has ordered a new hose and faucet, but I’m skeptical that will solve the problem. Anyone else had this problem?The button atop the kitchen faucet, that converts the flow from a stream to a spray, won’t lock in place. The faucet will spray as long as the button is depressed, but once released the flow returns to a stream. Our home faucet doesn’t work this way; once pressed, the button stays depressed and the flow continues as a stream. How does the faucet in your coach work? Will it lock into spray mode?Here’s a funny one that has been fixed. The compass would never read correctly. Turns out the sensor had been installed right next to several of the surround sound speakers, whose magnets were confusing the compass. Now that the sensor has been repositioned, the compass is working fine.

Hi Folks We have a 04 37C. We got it 8 months ago. Only minor problems so fa with 6000 miles. Bent tube for awning when it didnt retract in storm, leveling jacks had a hose leaking, refer blows out running down road and a couple of other things that warranty took care of. All & all we are happy with it. Eddie

Jim,While my Pace Arrow is a 2003, I think we do share some fixtures including faucets and the showerhead. I also started seeing more and more water from the showerhead backflow valve. At the same time, I began to think I wasn't getting the water pressure I had remembered –it wasn’t really bad – just off a bit. While checking the water pump connections I found a kinked line on the suction side of the pump where my dealer had installed a winterizing valve. I straightened that out and the problem was solved.I was going to tell you that my galley faucet did not lock into the spray mode, but then I realized I haven’t tried it since fixing the pressure issue. I tried it last night, and yes, it does lock into spray until I press the smooth part of the rubber switch that is about an inch down the handle from the spray switch. So you might want to look for a restriction in your water system. Good luck.Dave

looking for owners of 2004-2005 Pace Arrows

Lobstah
Explorer
Apr 26, 2013
Yes...I agree, that sounds pretty excessive. Make sure to tell them you want the bad parts back. That tends to let repair folks know that you're keeping track.

Curious about what part on the gas part of the water heater costs $225. The $110 for labor is probably just their standard hourly rate, but still sounds high.

Jim
seatec
Explorer
Apr 26, 2013
Getting the feeling I'm being nickeled and dimed to death. They found a leak in the propane system. Apparently the valve at the water heater is broken. Cost me $110 to diagnose. The part is $225 and another $110 to install. All that for a little valve. They also said that above 45mph there is a vibration in the coach? Vibration?? I never felt a vibration and I have driven hat thing up to 70mph. I sure hope they didn't break something while doing the road test.
Jim
Explorer
Apr 12, 2013
seatec wrote:
I believe you guys over this guy. He said absolutely not on this model. Oh well. Anyway. I checked all the fuses and cant find a bad one. SO now what? Try calling around until I find a service tech that acknowledges that the converter actually charges the chassis battery?

I would believe the manufacturer before anyone here on the forum, or the guys at a dealer (no offense to anyone here).

Take your BCCs model number and find the operators manual on-line. That should tell you if it charges the chassis battery while on shore power or not.

With manufacturers struggling to stay afloat the last several years, it wouldn't surprise me if they had Intellitek drop that circuitry to save money. There are 10's of thousands of RV's without it already. That's why there's the Trik-L-Start, or, many people (like myself) just install a $20 float charger.
seatec
Explorer
Apr 12, 2013
I believe you guys over this guy. He said absolutely not on this model. Oh well. Anyway. I checked all the fuses and cant find a bad one. SO now what? Try calling around until I find a service tech that acknowledges that the converter actually charges the chassis battery?
Lobstah
Explorer
Apr 10, 2013
seatec wrote:
SO my new roof is on the Moho. Was taling to the Service tech and mentioned how my engine battery wasn't charging when connected to the shore power and he said that that battery never charges while connected to shore power. He said the only way that battery is charged is via the altenator. is that true?

No...that's completely false. The Battery Control Center (BCC) controls what batteries get charged when. So when the BCC senses 12VDC current from the converter, it first energizes the relays to charge your house batteries. A few seconds later, it will energize the relays to allow charging of the chassis battery as well. Easily seen by watching the voltage display for the two battery banks on the Intellitec panel. Their labeled "Main" and "Aux". If both of those read over 12.5VDC then they are both being charged.

You may want to check the fuses in the BCC. I had this same issue once, and had a blown fuse, forget which one.

Jim
seatec
Explorer
Apr 10, 2013
SO my new roof is on the Moho. Was taling to the Service tech and mentioned how my engine battery wasn't charging when connected to the shore power and he said that that battery never charges while connected to shore power. He said the only way that battery is charged is via the altenator. is that true?
dougsee3
Explorer
Feb 18, 2013
No it does it without shore power and with. I still have not found any ground strips. It is to cold out to work on every day but I have taken a lot of panels off and not found anything yet.
It is hard to pinpoint as well as now most of the time the lights work properly but I am going to have to keep trying to solve, find some grounds or make new ones.
I do not like the frame grounds for what is called in a wire diagram "wire harness routing info" they are called
177 crossover to roadside and crossover to doorside (177) these are not the problem I am having but I do not like the ground attachments being right in the rear wheel wells wear they are going to be geting wet all the time I will fix these this summer.

Lobstah wrote:
Does this happen only on shore power? If you disconnect from shore power, are the lights stable? It does sound like a ground issue, assuming your lights are all 12v lights, at least the ones being impacted. My stick built house had a similar issue with some lights going dim and others getting brighter, and it was a floating neutral coming on on the main feed from the street.

Jim

dougsee3 wrote:
HI new Pace Arrow owner here.

Read this whole topic it did take some time but well spent. It was rather depressing it seems I might be doing a lot more repairs than the modifications that I was looking forward to.

I have a 2008 33V (W22) not mentioned here but here is my Question.

Having what appears to be a bad ground problem with interior lights that do not work and make other light circuits glow. I do not see any other 33V's here but Fleetwood's should be similar. To cold up here to crawl around underneath yet. Are the circuits grounded at or near the fixtures or at a common lug point and where to look for them.

It could be a cold issue as it seems to fix itself after the furnace has warmed the unit up or may be I have jiggled enough wires or fuses.

Now I have have had the unit for a month not used it yet, but have been trying to get familiar with the systems on some of the warmer days. I am finding the wiring kind of a rats nest but all newer cars and trucks are as well.

Doug
JayParsons
Explorer
Feb 18, 2013
D&LJones wrote:

So you might want to look for a restriction in your water system. Good luck.

Dave, you are not alone. My wifes cousin has been in one of these rigs for a few years now (bought used outside of Jasksonville) and they had the same problem.
R2Dillon
Explorer
Feb 18, 2013
You need to run another coax. There are two connectors on the dish.
Paul_Turpin
Explorer
Feb 17, 2013
I was looking to get a DVR for my Pace, I have DirecTV and the Dish on top has only one cable going to the DirecTV box now that came with my Pace. DirecTV said that I need two cables coming to the DVR for it to work, ( watch one channel and record another at same time) I am not looking for HD just so I can use the DirecTV DVR. Has any of you been able to make this work without changing to a new dish with two cables coming in to the box?