Microsoft Streets & Trips Program

For those who have a Mac (who miss MSFT S&T or don't want to run MSFT S&T in a Virtual Machine via VMware Fushion) -
you might like Road Trip Planner - you could probably even run it in a Virtual Machine on a Windows Laptop (with Parallels)

Theres even a FREE version of Road Trip Planner (maximum of 4 pins/stops).

WAZE is not a road trip or trip planning software - its a NAVIGATION program with some (on the fly) searchable & realtime integration.

Alan_Hepburn wrote:

bshpilot wrote:

Many of us can use the tethering mode on their phones to connect a laptop (if theres no other free internet wireless connection) & further GET A MiFI / personal hot spot - with the shared data plans i now have 60 GB to share between the MiFI & my smartphone - for an inexpensive $125 bucks per month.

What carrier offers 60GB for $125?

at&t -

shared data 15G plan, doubled your data to 30G & i kept my data used low for the 1st month, so now w/ carry over data its possible to be in the 57-60G range.

the last two months I've carried over 27 G.

you burn your carried data over FIRST, so its very likely (unless were traveling in the coach and I'm working from "home" in the coach) that ill burn 60G in a month.

bshpilot wrote:

Many of us can use the tethering mode on their phones to connect a laptop (if theres no other free internet wireless connection) & further GET A MiFI / personal hot spot - with the shared data plans i now have 60 GB to share between the MiFI & my smartphone - for an inexpensive $125 bucks per month.

What carrier offers 60GB for $125?

NAUTIQUE wrote:

It sounds like Delorme is not well liked and there are no other programs like this?

From the comments I have read, I still can't figure out what is hard about Delorme.

Saving a map file is just as easy as saving a Word or Excel document.

Well, I guess I have an advantage because I work in IT and have been using personal computers since the early 80's.

I mean, I don't care what you use or your skill set, but Delorme is no more difficult than any other mapping utility, and I have owned several. I have no association with Delorme except being a repeat customer year after year.

Another thing, all companies that create maps for purchase purposefully place errors or other indicators to protect their copyright.

I was planning on setting up a laptop with S&T & GPS puck in the M.H.
Then the phased it out :(
Really liked the idea of being able to plan out the route I wanted to take and then being able to follow it on the laptop.
Sooo... Is it still worth getting an old S&T to do this?
It sounds like Delorme is not well liked and there are no other programs like this?
I'm thinking that, even if S&T is no longer updated, it'll still be nice to plan on & can be used in conjunction with our Garmin and/or smartphone.

I just tried using WAZE to plan a route from Michigan to Utah, and it fails. I get some error about it being more than 1000 miles away. I'll stick to S&T which has no such limitation.

Johno02 wrote:
I bought the new 2015 version of Delorme Street atlas, and so far am very disapointed with it. Guess I am just used to S&T, and haven't got up to speed with Delorme yet. I have a lot of trouble just trying to save maps, and even more trying to recover and reuse. POIs are missing or impossible to find, and route choices arelimited to fastest or shortest. So far, I have found several map errors in streets being in the wrong places, and unable to locate places by street names. Called DeLorme about one problem, and they did not seem to be interested.

x3 on Delorme

I am using Good Sam road trip planner - I really like it almost better than S&T

JumboJet wrote:


Do you actually create a route, or you just having it on for messages concerning traffic, radar, etc.?

it will do both !

WAZE will announce / warn you where cops have (recently) been reported (by other users)...along your route (or on the road that you're traveling on, even if you have not created a route or destination).

I have an old copy of a Rand McNally trip maker software that came with a free atlas from Chrysler years ago (2002?). To this day I still use it. I had bought Microsoft Streets and trips, it worked for about 6 months and then stopped working, always asking for the product key, which I had and used to install it in my computer! When it did work I wasn't happy with it! I just went back to the out of date Rand McNally Trip Planner, it works great! Sure some of the campgrounds/destinations have changed, but the end result is still the same. It gets me where I need to be.

bshpilot wrote:

JumboJet wrote:
I installed WAZE just now and it crapped out twice trying to route from my current location to Disney Cruise Line. Message received: could not connect to routing server. But, if it works for you.

Google Maps had a route planned in under 15 seconds using the same criteria.

as they say YMMV - google maps might have had the route configured but its capability is marginally better than a old paper map.

i use was all the time running between rogers/bentonville & tulsa - works well, and combined w/ a radar detector is an extremely functional line of defense !

Do you actually create a route, or you just having it on for messages concerning traffic, radar, etc.?