No RVIA sticker on 2012 Nexus 24P

Coachmen uses the Azdel board in the class A line. At least in the entry level Pursuit line.

"I think you might want to check about the price of steel to aluminum. The sites I looked at stated that aluminum cost about 5 to 7X more than steel."

If you say so it is OK with me but those numbers sound somewhat skewed. Nexus uses steel because it is stronger. I assumed and perhaps incorrectly, that aluminum is cheaper to use since 99% of all RV manufacturers frame their coaches with aluminum which was a big improvement over the wood framing that predated it.

Hard to compare apples to apples as each material involves different construction techniques, a huge difference in thickness/weight all of which contributes to the bottom line cost.

Nexus also uses Azdel substrate instead of Luan or plywood. This is more expensive but since it it stronger, lighter, has a higher R value and will not absorb moisture it is simply a better way to build. Other than Lance I don't know of another major manufacturer that uses Azdel.

:C

Desert Captain wrote:

mowermech wrote:

The Logans wrote:
JR 257, Tell the salesman nice try, you can't find an aluminum stud/frame with a magnet... good grief, some folks would say anything to make a sale. I personally would never trust an aftermarket roof ladder. You can never really know if you have it secured in a safe manner.

Just my opinion

Just a quick google search tells me that the Nexus has STEEL framing.
If so, a magnet will certainly find the studs!

X2
Nexus frames their coaches in steel which is 72% stronger than the conventional (cheaper), aluminum framing found in most coaches. I have no desire, much less need to start drilling holes into the steel framing to add a ladder. My 12' multi position ladder (think Little Giant without the hype), leans nicely against the rear of the coach extending well above the roof line. No problem whatsoever stepping securely/safely onto the roof
or getting back down, but then the full fiberglass one piece roof doesn't require all that much maintenance.

Sometimes folks tend to search for a solution for which there is no known problem....
{the government does this a lot}.

:B

I think you might want to check about the price of steel to aluminum. The sites I looked at stated that aluminum cost about 5 to 7X more than steel.

hpdrver wrote:
Although many ex's live in Texas, I believe Texas law is similar to other states. Canadian law may be different but until someone can show me in statute where U S state laws require it, I do not think a RVIA sticker is required in the states. Please name the states that require this sticker.

It's a slightly complicated (what isn't?) set of legal requirements but I'll try to simplify it.

Your car or truck has a plate (usually on the drivers door frame) that says it was built in compliance with the FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards).

Your RV (trailer or motorhome) is required to comply with ANSI, NFPA and FMVSS standards with regards to electrical, plumbing, fire safety, etc., etc.

The RVIA basically rolled all of the various statutes into a single set of standards that are geared to RV's.

So to put it more precisely, no, RVIA certification is NOT required, but the underlying ANSI and NFPA standards ARE required but nobody is going to try to get 3 certificates when they can get just 1 that covers them all.

I don't maintain my Itasca's full fiberglass one piece roof, either ... BTW, it carries a ten-year warranty.

I maintain/replace/repair the cracking plastic items and self-leveling caulking seams from the sun's UV rays, such as: The shower bubble, the air conditioner case, the sinks/shower/toilet roof vents, the antenna mounts, and the ventilation vents and vent covers.

All this takes a ladder to get up there, no matter what the roof material is. I don't want to lean a ladder against the roof's edge(s) either .... that would scrape up the superb rolled corners that Winnebago molds right into their fiberglass one piece roofs.

mowermech wrote:

The Logans wrote:
JR 257, Tell the salesman nice try, you can't find an aluminum stud/frame with a magnet... good grief, some folks would say anything to make a sale. I personally would never trust an aftermarket roof ladder. You can never really know if you have it secured in a safe manner.

Just my opinion

Just a quick google search tells me that the Nexus has STEEL framing.
If so, a magnet will certainly find the studs!

X2
Nexus frames their coaches in steel which is 72% stronger than the conventional (cheaper), aluminum framing found in most coaches. I have no desire, much less need to start drilling holes into the steel framing to add a ladder. My 12' multi position ladder (think Little Giant without the hype), leans nicely against the rear of the coach extending well above the roof line. No problem whatsoever stepping securely/safely onto the roof
or getting back down, but then the full fiberglass one piece roof doesn't require all that much maintenance.

Sometimes folks tend to search for a solution for which there is no known problem....
{the government does this a lot}.

:B

Although many ex's live in Texas, I believe Texas law is similar to other states. Canadian law may be different but until someone can show me in statute where U S state laws require it, I do not think a RVIA sticker is required in the states. Please name the states that require this sticker.

No, the RVIA certification has been recently made more stringent to meet CSA standards so units certified after that date are now accepted as being CSA compliant.

It is not retroactive though, so units built prior to that are still not compliant with Canadian standards.

JaxDad wrote:

hpdrver wrote:
After 30 years of registering, insuring and being inspected each year from Texas inspectors with my motor homes, no one has ever asked about the RVIA sticker. Texas has no inspection requirements for this sticker.

As the song lyric goes, "All of my ex's live in Texas." but unfortunately not all RV's live in Texas.

There are numerous States (and Canadian Provinces) where the RVIA certification is required by law. No RVIA certification, no passing the annual inspection.

I don't know for sure but I don't think Canada could care less about the RVIA sticker. What they are going to be looking at is the CSA certification sticker to show it meets the Canadian standards.

This is IMO

hpdrver wrote:
After 30 years of registering, insuring and being inspected each year from Texas inspectors with my motor homes, no one has ever asked about the RVIA sticker. Texas has no inspection requirements for this sticker.

As the song lyric goes, "All of my ex's live in Texas." but unfortunately not all RV's live in Texas.

There are numerous States (and Canadian Provinces) where the RVIA certification is required by law. No RVIA certification, no passing the annual inspection.