Overweight Toad?

Daveinet wrote:

Executive wrote:
Sounds like a lot of folks on here know more about towing and laws of physics than any of them dumb old engineers anyway, so go for it. If you're stopped or have an accident, just tell 'em the guys on RV.net said it was ok....that should work......Dennis

The difference between the "dumb" engineers and the laws of physics is that the laws of physics are not governed by marketing. In other words, no RV manufacturer is going to bother listing the 20 different ways you can tow something, and specify a different weight rating for each method, even though if one were to do a complete analysis, several different weight limitations could be legitimately published. They publish a one size fits all, to avoid confusion.

And,,,,,,,,,there is surely no confusion here!!!!!!! :R

OhhWell wrote:

I'm still waiting for someone to give a specific example of what is going to fail and how it is going to put everyone's lives at risk on the road due to the weight rating of the hitch. Dennis came the closest with a tire blowout but that doesn't have anything to do with the hitch rating.

I've read numerous reports of motorhome hitch failures on this forum over the years. But seeing that you didn't read them, must be they didn't happen.

I refuse to believe that my mortality is in the hands of Tom, his car and dolly, his RV, and 700lbs over the hitch rating. Seems to me that Tom will probably be a little extra careful and aware due to this limiting factor. I see WAY more dangerous things daily on the roads.

There won't be an LEO anywhere that would be able to "eye" 700lbs over, come on. Let's try and be real.....

I wouldn't think twice about only 700lbs. It won't be a "danger" thing in this instance, more of a long term stress issue. If 700lbs snaps the hitch, it was bad from the beginning.

dub

OP, have you had the G35 weighed? The rated Curb weight for an '03 is about 3350 lbs. Load it with an almost empty tank and you should be able to drop that to 3200 lbs or so. You could also take the spare tire out. You will still be 100 lbs or so over the hitch rating and a rolling threat to the safety of our children but maybe not as much?

jfkmk wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

Daveinet wrote:

Executive wrote:
Sounds like a lot of folks on here know more about towing and laws of physics than any of them dumb old engineers anyway, so go for it. If you're stopped or have an accident, just tell 'em the guys on RV.net said it was ok....that should work......Dennis

The difference between the "dumb" engineers and the laws of physics is that the laws of physics are not governed by marketing. In other words, no RV manufacturer is going to bother listing the 20 different ways you can tow something, and specify a different weight rating for each method, even though if one were to do a complete analysis, several different weight limitations could be legitimately published. They publish a one size fits all, to avoid confusion.

Thank you for posting that. I was trying to put my thoughts into words but you pretty much nailed it. If a good engineer had actually been tasked with designing the capacities sticker on a hitch he or she designed, it probably wouldn't even fit on the hitch. :B

And you guys are SO much more qualified to make that kind of decision. Sort of like the OP saying he put 2500 lbs of material in a truck rated for 1000 lbs and thinking that just because the truck didn't fall apart this time it must have been ok. Original engineer must have been wrong!

Exceeding your hitch rating on a 15,000 lbs motorhome with a TOW DOLLY is nothing even sort of like putting 2500 lbs in a 1000 LBS rated truck bed.

I'm still waiting for someone to give a specific example of what is going to fail and how it is going to put everyone's lives at risk on the road due to the weight rating of the hitch. Dennis came the closest with a tire blowout but that doesn't have anything to do with the hitch rating.

I personally think he is going to be at the most risk of cooking his transmission that close to GCVWR on an older motorhome but have no idea the maintenance he has performed. If none, then I would be getting that sucker flushed and putting some nice synthetic ATF in it.

OhhWell wrote:

Daveinet wrote:

Executive wrote:
Sounds like a lot of folks on here know more about towing and laws of physics than any of them dumb old engineers anyway, so go for it. If you're stopped or have an accident, just tell 'em the guys on RV.net said it was ok....that should work......Dennis

The difference between the "dumb" engineers and the laws of physics is that the laws of physics are not governed by marketing. In other words, no RV manufacturer is going to bother listing the 20 different ways you can tow something, and specify a different weight rating for each method, even though if one were to do a complete analysis, several different weight limitations could be legitimately published. They publish a one size fits all, to avoid confusion.

Thank you for posting that. I was trying to put my thoughts into words but you pretty much nailed it. If a good engineer had actually been tasked with designing the capacities sticker on a hitch he or she designed, it probably wouldn't even fit on the hitch. :B

And you guys are SO much more qualified to make that kind of decision. Sort of like the OP saying he put 2500 lbs of material in a truck rated for 1000 lbs and thinking that just because the truck didn't fall apart this time it must have been ok. Original engineer must have been wrong!

Daveinet wrote:

Executive wrote:
Sounds like a lot of folks on here know more about towing and laws of physics than any of them dumb old engineers anyway, so go for it. If you're stopped or have an accident, just tell 'em the guys on RV.net said it was ok....that should work......Dennis

The difference between the "dumb" engineers and the laws of physics is that the laws of physics are not governed by marketing. In other words, no RV manufacturer is going to bother listing the 20 different ways you can tow something, and specify a different weight rating for each method, even though if one were to do a complete analysis, several different weight limitations could be legitimately published. They publish a one size fits all, to avoid confusion.

Thank you for posting that. I was trying to put my thoughts into words but you pretty much nailed it. If a good engineer had actually been tasked with designing the capacities sticker on a hitch he or she designed, it probably wouldn't even fit on the hitch. :B

Executive wrote:
Sounds like a lot of folks on here know more about towing and laws of physics than any of them dumb old engineers anyway, so go for it. If you're stopped or have an accident, just tell 'em the guys on RV.net said it was ok....that should work......Dennis

and that is exactly what 90% of the people who come on here and ask about doing something stupid want, some guy to say, "sure do it, I mean what is the worst that could happen".
bumpy

Executive wrote:
Sounds like a lot of folks on here know more about towing and laws of physics than any of them dumb old engineers anyway, so go for it. If you're stopped or have an accident, just tell 'em the guys on RV.net said it was ok....that should work......Dennis

The difference between the "dumb" engineers and the laws of physics is that the laws of physics are not governed by marketing. In other words, no RV manufacturer is going to bother listing the 20 different ways you can tow something, and specify a different weight rating for each method, even though if one were to do a complete analysis, several different weight limitations could be legitimately published. They publish a one size fits all, to avoid confusion.

OhhWell wrote:
Dave, that was sarcasm. This is one of the silliest weight police holidays I have seen to date. A tow dolly with brakes and almost no tongue weight carrying 1/3 of the weight of the motorhome with a frame possibly re-enforced and a couple hundred over the hitch rating :?

Oops:o