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Mile High wrote:

holstein13 wrote:

Mile High wrote:

holstein13 wrote:
I should also mention that I have a 200 gallon diesel fuel tank and therefore almost exclusively fill up at truck stops (flying j / pilot work well) and I buy a lot of fuel because I travel full time.

Wow, that would be nice. I thought 100 was a lot, but now I wish I had 150, or 200!

I love the 1,250 mile range. I'm thinking of getting the Grand Cherokee diesel as well with 600 mile range as a toad.

Ya I saw that in your post! I didn't know they made a diesel, interesting. Would love to see that in the Wrangler.

That was a rumor for 2017 but it doesn't look as if it will happen. I'd love it as well.

4x4van wrote:
I hate the idea of a "pre-authorization", for any amount, at a fuel pump. In my day-to-day life, I use Arco AM/PM. Swiping my bank card to fuel up DOES NOT pre-authorize a specific amount. In fact, I have actually had the pump stop pumping when the amount reached the balance of what was actually in my bank account at that minute. So the technology IS there for a debit card/bank card to ONLY allow spending what is available. Credit card? Well, the technology certainly exists for the retailer to not exceed your credit limit as well.

A retailer putting a $150 "hold" on my account when I only purchased $50 of fuel is bu__sh__, and can indeed affect me when I go to use my card again (and that "hold" is still there, tying up my money). And what if I only have $100 in my account? Will it not allow me to pump that $50, because the $150 hold is more than is available?

Sorry, it's not a legitimate practice. Even restaurants, which will typically end up with a higher amount charged (due to the tip), only puts the card through for the initial billed amount, with a "processing" notation. I have never had a higher amount show up in my account as a "hold".

Question; when you buy gas, how is the merchant or bank to know exactly how much you plan on purchasing? Unless they employ the latest future predicting technology - they can't. So to mitigate risk, they authorize the maximum amount to make sure you can actually pay for what you pump. I am certain this is an evolution of people pumping for more than they can or will actually pay for. There are lots of vehicles out there that will hold $150 in fuel or more. And again, since they have no idea how big your tank is, or how much you will buy, they approve for the max. If you owned a gas station next to the highway, how would you protect yourself from people buying more gas than they can afford, or pumping and running without paying at all?

If you still don't like it, you can always go inside, pay for the exact amount you want and pump. It will shut off at the amount you paid for. Unless you don't know how much it will take.. ;)

Many folks complain about the opposite problem. trying to fill up your MH and the preauthorization is too low, (needing $150 and the authorization is $50 or $100) thus shutting the pump off and having to swipe again to finish the fill up.

I hate the idea of a "pre-authorization", for any amount, at a fuel pump. In my day-to-day life, I use Arco AM/PM. Swiping my bank card to fuel up DOES NOT pre-authorize a specific amount. In fact, I have actually had the pump stop pumping when the amount reached the balance of what was actually in my bank account at that minute. So the technology IS there for a debit card/bank card to ONLY allow spending what is available. Credit card? Well, the technology certainly exists for the retailer to not exceed your credit limit as well.

A retailer putting a $150 "hold" on my account when I only purchased $50 of fuel is bu__sh__, and can indeed affect me when I go to use my card again (and that "hold" is still there, tying up my money). And what if I only have $100 in my account? Will it not allow me to pump that $50, because the $150 hold is more than is available?

Sorry, it's not a legitimate practice. Even restaurants, which will typically end up with a higher amount charged (due to the tip), only puts the card through for the initial billed amount, with a "processing" notation. I have never had a higher amount show up in my account as a "hold".

Filled up Monday at a Pilot and used my Frequent Fueler Advantage card to get a discount. Tuesday morning check the account and had a pending charge of $150. This morning had a completed transaction for the amount of fuel I purchase. Standard practice. Can't recall but isn't $150 the pump limit when using a card at the pump?

Many service stations put a hold on your card in far excess of your purchase. Chevron typically puts a $125.00 hold on your card even if your purchase is $5.00. We don't buy at Chevron. But this practice is not all that unusual. Some will come off a day later and the actual charge will show up. Others can take a week to release the hold. Chuck

holstein13 wrote:

Mile High wrote:

holstein13 wrote:
I should also mention that I have a 200 gallon diesel fuel tank and therefore almost exclusively fill up at truck stops (flying j / pilot work well) and I buy a lot of fuel because I travel full time.

Wow, that would be nice. I thought 100 was a lot, but now I wish I had 150, or 200!

I love the 1,250 mile range. I'm thinking of getting the Grand Cherokee diesel as well with 600 mile range as a toad.

Ya I saw that in your post! I didn't know they made a diesel, interesting. Would love to see that in the Wrangler.

Mile High wrote:

holstein13 wrote:
I should also mention that I have a 200 gallon diesel fuel tank and therefore almost exclusively fill up at truck stops (flying j / pilot work well) and I buy a lot of fuel because I travel full time.

Wow, that would be nice. I thought 100 was a lot, but now I wish I had 150, or 200!

I love the 1,250 mile range. I'm thinking of getting the Grand Cherokee diesel as well with 600 mile range as a toad.

holstein13 wrote:
I should also mention that I have a 200 gallon diesel fuel tank and therefore almost exclusively fill up at truck stops (flying j / pilot work well) and I buy a lot of fuel because I travel full time.

Wow, that would be nice. I thought 100 was a lot, but now I wish I had 150, or 200!

10forty2 wrote:

holstein13 wrote:

supercub wrote:
Get a Flying J Good Sam CC, you'll get about 7 cents off below cash price, and you don't have to go inside to start the diesel pumps at the truck islands.

I wouldn't bother with the charge card. Why?

The regular Good Sams card gives you a 3 cent discount per gallon on fuel. I've got an Amazon Rewards card that gives me 2% on gas purchases 3% on Amazon purchases. That 2% equals about 5 cents per gallon on top of the 3 cents from Good Sams.

Result: 8 cents per gallon discount on fuel using the simple Good Sams membership plus a cash rewards card.

Not criticizing, but all in all, I'm wondering the benefit of gaining about 2 gallons of fuel over the course of an average fillup..... If you save $.08/gallon over an 80 gallon fillup, that comes to $6.40....about the cost of two gallons of fuel or a #4 combo meal at McDonald's. If I have to worry about $5-$6 at every fillup, then I probably shouldn't have gotten the RV. Again, not criticizing anyone who uses the cards....just my observation and my opinion.

I couldn't agree more with you. Here's my logic:

• I need a credit card anyway. So I have one credit card, the Amazon cash back card that pays me 3% on Amazon purchases, 2% on fuel and food, and 1% on everything else.
• I have the Good Sams card anyway. I use it for campground discounts and discounts at Camping World.
• I don't need any other charge cards or complications.

I should also mention that I have a 200 gallon diesel fuel tank and therefore almost exclusively fill up at truck stops (flying j / pilot work well) and I buy a lot of fuel because I travel full time.

The regular Good Sams card gives you a 3 cent discount per gallon on fuel. I've got an Amazon Rewards card that gives me 2% on gas purchases 3% on Amazon purchases. That 2% equals about 5 cents per gallon on top of the 3 cents from Good Sams.

I use a Bank of America Visa 3% discount on Fuel card with a Good Sams 3¢. ;)

OP if you check on line with your CC account the $150 is most likely in the pending process. And when posted will show the actual amount you charged. And the $150 will be gone.